It's weird that people still think that Communism still exists...

@curiosi Tell me then do you or the person in question understand the concept of "base" and "superstructure"?

Have you or the other person ever studied Marxism to say it persists in today's society?

@FootL00se I understand the concepts. Sadly it remains an attractive ideology to be misused.

@Lochlee What China or Russia are today, are purely Capital driven and compete in a Neo Liberal world... no country can thrive or survive in a globalised world without being capitalist.

@FootL00se That is true, if you take Wallerstein's argument of the world system into consideration. However, the misuse of the ideology is alive and well.

@Lochlee It's sad that despite all the literature being out there. People refuse to read or understand. It feels bad that all the advancements we've made as a race, and we still don't want to educate ourselves. 😔

@FootL00se The problem is that the idea can be simplified and that makes it very attractive, particularly in countries with great disparities in wealth (and low levels of education). It becomes the "go to" rhetoric of the agitators, sad but true. Marx and Marxism is is complex if you take time to understand it.

@Lochlee True. That's why there are entire discourses, not just in humanities, but even in the legal fraternity which elaborate on how it can longer translate into a functional legal system in today's environment.

@FootL00se no longer? Not in a complex society.

@Lochlee I apologise, I didn't follow your comment

@FootL00se I was wondering if you meant "... no longer translate into a functional..." The second part of my comment was that in a complex society (today's environment as you mentioned) it is unlikely to work.

@Lochlee Complex society is there too. But I've viewed it more from the lense on a legal side. That in essence in today's world, ownership and capital have turned into highly abstract rights - and to weave that into any semblance of Marxist theory would mean dismantling a lot of existing core legal concepts developed in a Capitalist regime.

@FootL00se True, the "owners" of the means of production are often legal entities and not necessarily a person. Interesting to view the incompatibility from a legal perspective. I am wondering now (and I do not know) whether in a "communist country" the legal concepts are conceptualised differently,to align with Marxist thinking.

@Lochlee That turns such countries into, what people in the law background at last refer to them as "Bureaucratic Capitalism"

@FootL00se Interesting application of the system. Will have to read about it. I have actually never heard it used in that sense.