There really is no way to fully understand the injustices of the opposite sex. We can listen, commiserate and be empathetic but, we will never truly know what it’s like to be in each others shoes.
I am curious what happened that is making you feel this way.
I think every single person thinks that about others, who has it worse and why, the truth is women and men in different societies are oppressed in different ways. When a man tells me about his experience with hate, abuse etc I listen just as much as when a woman does. I don't have to relate in order to empathize. Also about the suicide thing, I've read that women attempt at higher rates than men, they just fail, so more attempts by men end up being successful, that's why the imbalance there. I can look it up.
@SW-User well people who shut you down and feel the need to compare struggles are just being unfair, that being said there are some silly complaints out there for sure, but I didn't know you've been attacked that way for sharing your suffering. That sucks.
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@BlueVeins You've just introduced so many new factors into the equation b😅 this is getting so complicated
That's one factor to suicide, it happens 5 times more to women in the society I live in
We can never fully understand each other, we can even hardly relate to our own family member someone we've grown up with. Best we can do is work on our self awareness and be fair :/
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An interesting observation. I would have to say that women still suffer far more than men.
We live in different countries so it's hard to respond to this in a way that'll be relevant to you, but I think the trouble is that hatred of men is considered more socially acceptable as a consequence of the fact that hatred of women is more prevalent and more impactful.
Women [b]fear[/b] men, in a way that men rarely have to fear women, at least once they’re adults. If you consider the number of times girls and women have disappeared or whose bodies have been found, raped and murdered, there’s no comparison. And the only thing those victims had in common was being female. There’s no question that men and boys face danger too, but it’s most often at the hands of other [b]men[/b].
There’s a quote that is largely true:
As to why men commit suicide more often than women, it could be because of the unrealistic expectation on men that they be all things, all the time: strong, brave, ambitious, successful & confident 24 hrs a day. If it were because they were feared and hated for no reason, black men would have a much higher suicide rate than white men—but they don’t.
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@bijouxbroussard tbh I think this quote itself reflects exactly what I'm complaining about... Why should women think of me as someone who might kill her? Is this really a realistic and fair way of thinking even in the 21st century?
Also the "men afraid of women laughing at them" I think this is obviously worded in a way that's so cynical towards men.. it would be more accurate to say "men are afraid of getting rejected by the woman they genuinely love the moment she figures out that they're not as invincible as expected"
@SW-User But when you look at things realistically, a woman has much more to fear from a strange man (and sometimes even from men she thinks she knows) than the other way around. It’s very unfortunate, but that’s the way it is. Rather than taking it personally, many men who are not predatory have become allies to women in doing what they can to stop the men who are.
That probably depends on the country. I don't think an average man in Europe suffers much from hate. Prejudices yes but not really hate. There are also many factors that play a big role. Social class, race, education...Personally, I think both white women and white men coming from middle class families in Europe have it much easier than other groups...well, as long as they stay within their circles.
@CrazyMusicLover pardon Sister it is good you come from a more civil place. I have nevere been to Africa, as you mentiones but there are parts of the US, where things are right sketchy so you Like Crazy Music?
There's no need for suicide one up manship. Suicide is so often "created" in young people of every sex with floods of hormones, WAY too little parental supervision, WAY too much time spent on the internet, and unsupervised websites which allow the bullying and harassment of almost anyone at all to continue on and on.
I have, actually, at least [b]tried[/b] to imagine the particular kinds of pressures and or "blame" that many men experience. Those pressures, especially, when they have a family to financially support at least adequately. Yet, many women also experience that same pressure and expectation, when they have one or more children. Men often experience the hurt of rejection, when they make the first move towards someone they're interested in some kind of relationship with. Yet, women often experience that same kind of rejection, even when they are...were not the pursuer.
You are correct, that I don't understand what "hate" and "prejudice" a man experiences on average, just for being a man. That is because I don't see any hate or prejudice towards men in general anywhere, except in a smattering of social media posts and comments.
Our capacity for empathy is diminishing ever more rapidly. Maybe if we were concerned with others issues ours would work themselves out. Well in a perfect world anyway. No chance of that now. Lean in and embrace the decline. You know it’s coming. If you’re not ready it’s on you.
I think women are more likely to admit that they have a problem and get treatment for their depression.
As for the depression, I think that is a societal issue. As a society we seek happiness through material things but actually happiness is an inside job. Ernie
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This is very close to my heart.
I didn't cook over the weekend ( my job ) as I have been busy for months with my fundraising for Mental Health. Chairman of Organising Committee & BBQ COOK because I have the time.
I lost a very close dear friend 2 1/2 year ago via suicide.
Never be ashamed to talk and ask for help.
He felt he was a failure for not being able to provide for this family.
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