Thoughts on Jordan Peterson?

I'm not a fan.

Most of his schtick involves misrepresenting his opponents views. Also, seeking controversy and then feigning victimhood.

For example, he is pretending not to know why he got suspended from Twitter. What he did was to deadname a trans actor and say that trans surgery is criminal. Also something about pride being a sin, which (in typical Peterson fashion) is something left to be interpreted in different ways.

If we accept that transphobia is a thing and deserves to be taken as seriously as homophobia (imo yes), then what he did was not on. It's clearly in breach of Twitter's TOC's and Peterson would have known that.

It generates publicity though and he can claim to be a 'free-soeech' champion by deliberately pushing boundaries of what is considered bigotry.

I like Jordan Peterson for the same reasons I lover Christopher Hitchens. They are public intellectuals in the loosest sense of the word, while publicly being open and vulnerable regarding their own challenges and demons.

What I mean by the first part of that statement is that neither attempted to be formal intellectuals speaking ex cathedra from the ivory tower of academia. Both were really intellectual op ed commentators. I loved that Hitchens would get baked and hold his own with the greatest religious minds that have graced the planet. And do so with humor. Peterson is much the same. A relaxed informal public confession of his thinking. His words are relaxingly open. I was thinking about this the other day, and I started to wonder…

And what I mean about the later part is best reflected in Hitchens facing his terminal cancer, and being very candid about his philosophical and religious explorations of his own annihilation. I’m not an atheist, but I appreciate that vulnerability. And Peterson has that same rawness. He’s been very open about his struggles with anxiety, benzos, his struggles pulling himself out that. Even very open about his own spiritual struggles.

I have to say, I understand why Hitchens was a firebrand. He was passionate, charismatic, entertaining, a socialist, and came to be one of the most vocal not atheist, but anti-theist voices on the planet.

Peterson is hardly radical. He doesn’t write manifestos. He’s sort of boring and repetitive. And where he ends up is hardly the misogynist and queer phobic abattoir people describe. He’s not going to march in any parades but he’s clearly a libertarian and believes in basic human liberty and dignity. I end up agreeing with him on many things. Like legislated compulsory use of language being fucked and dangerous.

I sort of wonder why Peterson is so popular. And so hated. In alot of ways he seems very unextraordinary. I suspect it is some product of our times.

thought he was interesting a few years back with all that gender stuff and fighting against being forced to use certain language. I also enjoyed a few vids of him debating others and how calm he always was and very intellectual. I have not heard anything of him in awhile though

He's a very eloquent speaker but too stuck inside his own dogmatic views to understand society outside his fairly small western culture bubble. He's perpetually fighting social evolution which is almost always a losing battle in the long term and i think his mental health is suffering from it.

TLDR he's an old man stuck in his ways who just happens to be good at sounding smart while speaking publicly.

I liked him alot, because his stance towards the whole gender insanity from a few years back was educated and calm. His recent activity, I am very much against. The whole Elliot Page business gave me the rest.

His entire career started because he claimed everyone would go to jail for being anti-trans in Canada. Bill 16. He became famous for it.

Nobody went to jail for it. He made it up for attention. It worked. So yeah not a fan.

Love that guy. Apparently though he is facing a lot of resentment for some twitter BS. Not like he said anything intentionally offensive

He's a genius.

He used to be quite a thoughtful seemingly intellectual person but over time he's sort of spiralled into an old man that shouts at clouds. His recent rants are absolutely embarrassing and uncomfortable to watch.

I tend to agree with his opinions but what impresses me most is his knowledge of the academic literature. Would be good if he lets his students talk more but I guess lectures are his style.

Heres my opinion about him , if a man has to be that bold towards others just to get the truth out our society is stupid .

An international hero. Speaking logic and destroying false narratives.
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He sounds like an incel.

Never heard of her.
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He's a good speaker, I often find myself agreeing with his point oh view.

Who dat?

The producer of the Conan show?

It was a shock to discover what a mild and gentle man he is.

His advice can be really good to absurdly simple, but somehow we still need to hear it....

Make your bed.... 😂

I think people get confused because he's an old school thinker - he likes to let conversations meander where they may

He's not a gotcha person

He's an exlporer of ideas. He isn't scared of knowledge. He is a man of principle

I think he is probably weakest when he talks about women

Don't get me wrong, he can make killer points that have made me think, but in general he can sound a bit of a fuddy duddy

His heart is in the right place and I think he has been a bit broken in the last few years

He has a lot of amazing ideas to convey. He motivates me sometimes when I'm depressed and he teaches me better how people work, how society works and how I should deal with it. Awesome stuff, although not perfect. Sometimes he says things I disagree with and you just have to acknowledge that, move on, and not let that define everything he says.