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What's the logical fallacy called, I can't think of it?

This is a bad example but to illustrate a point, let's say you're gay and you talk about a hate crime that happened to you, someone else comments and says "I got robbed by a gay person once, (something generalized like that) and I'm just saying that some are violent."

Then they hijack your post with talking about how some gay people are violent (as if that's a valid point) when the original story was talking about how you had a crime done to you.

They'll go on to say that they've witnessed bad behavior among people and they'll say things like "I'm just saying" and "you're hating on all straight people."

Then instead of the original point being made, they'll continually do it.

It's a bad example but it's to highlight a certain mentality that some people have that their minds can't focus on something specific but even the mere mention of the group will just bring up generalized notions so badly it takes from the original point.

I'm sure that's a fallacy but not really sure what it's called.
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SatanBurger · 36-40, FVIP
@Emosaur That's the closest I think, the what abouts and strawman.

BlueVeins · 22-25
sounds like implied faulty generalization
SatanBurger · 36-40, FVIP
@BlueVeins Oh this fits, thank you. I was thinking straw man and whataboutism but this one is great. I'll have to remember that because there's a good amount of people on here that can't really stay on a specific topic affecting specific people only. They bring in generalizations and accusations and their own personal hang ups.

Thank you. I finally have an answer.
Doomflower · 41-45, M
False equivalence.
Pherick · 41-45, M
One of my favorite cheat sheets for logical fallacies.

https://www.pesec.no/content/images/size/w1460/2020/03/School-Of-Thought---Fallacies-Poster.png

SatanBurger · 36-40, FVIP
@Pherick Haha I'll have to look at it thanks.
Jackaloftheazuresand · 26-30, M
so like a more specific form of the politics people that have to inject it into everything. This sounds more like a behavior than a fallacy because it doesn't seem like they are arguing anything if we believe their other comment about "just saying." I don't know if this behavior has a name but it comes from people who feel voiceless/ignored/ineffectual
Maybe moving the goalposts?
one useful link, vetted to be acceptable to the red hat guys
//www.conservapedia.com/Logical_fallacy
but watch this. good AND smart AND fun
[media=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qf03U04rqGQ]https:
SatanBurger · 36-40, FVIP
@SatyrService Oh haha nice video.
Lets say that you never mentioned that it was a personal hate crime against you ...and that you particilarly mentioned that it was about people who got phobic and hatefull about gay people.

It just might change how people percieve your words.

And might explain why the person said they got robbed by a gay person and how it affected them.
@Emosaur 😂
BlueVeins · 22-25
@SatanBurger I'm just glad to see that my fallacy proposal won out 🥰
SatanBurger · 36-40, FVIP
@BlueVeins Haha it did indeed.
2cool4school · 46-50, F
I don’t think I understand what you are trying to say here ?? Not that it’s hard to confuse me… but wth is this about??!!
SatanBurger · 36-40, FVIP
@2cool4school I already had my post answered, it's between straw manning and whataboutism. Basically my premise is that let's say you're talking about specific issues that relate to only small communities (issues that wouldn't normally affect you but those special communities instead) problems ONLY related to that group and someone comes on to give entire essays in the comment section about something entirely irrelevant to essentially prove that the group you're talking about is bad when they talk about things all over the place or things that have nothing to do with the post but more personal about them instead.

Something like that, straw manning is more closer than whatabouts but whatabouts is also what I was looking for.
CorvusBlackthorne · 100+, M
That's a deflection, but I'm not sure what you would call it.
MethDozer · M
Your example kind has a few mixed in but the one I think you're looking for is a false equivalency fallacy

 
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