Remembrance Day is always complicated when you have grandfathers who fought on the opposing teams.

They’re frail old men who would probably still kill each other if there was enough alcohol in the mix.

One grandfather flew with bomber command and hit the third Reich hard from a mile up in feeezing cold airplanes.

The other invaded France, Greece and then killed more Russians than the Ukraine and didn’t quit until he had enough lead in him to become a human pencil and was captured in a hospital bed.

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deadgerbil · 22-25, F

That's a very complicated situation to wrestle with. There's so much nuance there, I'm glad that I don't have heated debate in my family.

smiler2012 · 56-60, M

{@arcticdave] it is really bygones to be bygones there has been a lot of water gone unnder the bridge .war is horrible nobody can deny that but old hatred to be fuelled by excessive alcohol

ArcticDave · 41-45, M

@smiler2012 One can’t forgive the other for the friends he lost. The other can’t forgive because of what happened to Dresden.

nacnud · 31-35, M

Instead of celebrating anything remembrance can be a way to remind us there are no winners in war and we need to have dialogue with those who hold different views and keep those we elect accountable.

LordShadowfire · 46-50, M

Wow. I wouldn't wish that family dynamic on anybody. One old Nazi and one old Allied soldier.

ArcticDave · 41-45, M

@LordShadowfire The are both two old men who were still practically children when their governments taught them to kill. They are both brave men who deserve my respect.

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Max41 · 26-30, M

Now ukraine france is getting back reward as well so you may celebrate it .

ArcticDave · 41-45, M

@Max41 That makes no sense.

malizz · 70-79, M

Remember them all. War is a tragedy for any army.

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