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Carazaa · F
Pikachu, Not quite! Moses said "You rebels" not God to the Israelites"You are reading fast and missing parts evidently! Moses is representative of the Israelites and when they complained God was upset with all of them, therefore God killed many, and kept the rest including Moses in the desert 40 years longer. But he still fed them and gave them water! Moses didn't follow Gods instructions he hit the rock this time, not spoke to it as God had said, so the Israelites didn't see the water coming out by Moses command and might have thought it a bigger miracle.
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Carazaa · F
@LeopoldBloom I care about you, but you have been very disrespectful and I am here to witness and you can ignore my comments.
@Carazaa
[quote]You said that God called it rebellion, but Moses called the Israelites rebellious.[/quote]
Yeah for sure. And god says that moses and aaron have rebelled.
Yeah i think that must be the reason. Like i said to you in PM, i just don't see how god could do that to moses
[quote] it would have showed the Israelites that it was God not Moses hitting the rock that made the water come out. Which is what God wanted.[/quote]
[quote]You said that God called it rebellion, but Moses called the Israelites rebellious.[/quote]
Yeah for sure. And god says that moses and aaron have rebelled.
Yeah i think that must be the reason. Like i said to you in PM, i just don't see how god could do that to moses
[quote] it would have showed the Israelites that it was God not Moses hitting the rock that made the water come out. Which is what God wanted.[/quote]
LeopoldBloom · M
In Howard Fast's monumental study [i]The Jews - History of a People[/i], he describes an ancient tribe, the Habiru, who lived in the desert between Egypt and the city-states to the east. Their mythology eventually included a period of wandering followed by their conquering the land their deity had promised them, from which their ancestors had come. It's not that different from the legends of the Kiowa and their journey from Montana to the Great Plains, which happened in comparatively recent times.
Obviously, water would have been important for a desert people, so blaming the long period of wandering on a mythical leader offending a deity wasn't that far-fetched.
Obviously, water would have been important for a desert people, so blaming the long period of wandering on a mythical leader offending a deity wasn't that far-fetched.
Speedyman · 70-79, M
Why are you so concerned about this? You say you don’t believe in this God but use are so concerned apparently about what a God does you don’t believe in. It seems you are obsessed about this God you don’t believe in and you are a clear case for counselling. Why don’t you go to a psychiatrist now
PrinceFrank · 36-40, M
With Moses yes it was the fact that he hit the rock instead of speaking to it like he was told but in all honesty it was something he did during the 40 years of wondering in the wilderness that caused Moses not to be able to go into the promise land and I don’t know if God had anything against Aaron, but Back then God didn’t understand his creation and why man did what he did until God wrapped hisself in the image of sinful flesh and on the night he was betrayed he prayed to God the father to remove the cup of poison from him he didn’t want to die and at that moment he understood mankind and kept his word and died for us
@PrinceFrank
So then that is an aspect of reality that god did not know. He knew the theory but not the practical application. There was knowledge about the practical application which he did not possess.
That means he is not all-knowing.
So then that is an aspect of reality that god did not know. He knew the theory but not the practical application. There was knowledge about the practical application which he did not possess.
That means he is not all-knowing.
PrinceFrank · 36-40, M
@Pikachu in some cases yes but remember he was killed before the foundation of the earth he knew but being that God will forget he had to go back thru it a again like he was in a loop but all that aside God knows and understand you and all of mankind better than we know ourselves
@PrinceFrank
[quote]in some cases yes[/quote]
lol my dude.
If god is not all knowing in some cases [i]then he is not all knowing[/i].
[quote]in some cases yes[/quote]
lol my dude.
If god is not all knowing in some cases [i]then he is not all knowing[/i].
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Sharon · F
@PrinceFrank Sorry but, without punctuation, that makes no sense at all.
PrinceFrank · 36-40, M
@Sharon ok message me later and I will try to help you understand it
Sharon · F
@PrinceFrank Punctuating it properly will suffice.
Speedyman · 70-79, M
This guy is obsessed. He has a personality disorder which leads him to want to keep bringing these things up
SweetMae · 70-79, F
God instructed him to speak to the rock, not to strike it with his staff.
maxeen · 61-69, F
God said ...speak to the rock....Moses violently struck the rock twice
OggggO · 36-40, M
IIRC, Moses tried to claim personal responsibility for the miracle instead of properly crediting God. That was the rebellion, not striking the stone.
xixgun · M
Ask Him when you see Him.
Ryanoliver2011 · 26-30, M
My guess is because he didn’t bring forth the water in the way that god commanded so he directly disobeyed god. That’s just my interpretation of it
@Ryanoliver2011
Well i think that's one of the few reasons we might glean from this passage.
But it seems so harsh considering how faithfully Moses served for over 40 years.
Well i think that's one of the few reasons we might glean from this passage.
But it seems so harsh considering how faithfully Moses served for over 40 years.
Ryanoliver2011 · 26-30, M
@Pikachu I completely agree but if memory serves the Bible also says God is a vengeful god which is very ironic considering he forgives all sins should you ask for it. Crazy right lol
Harriet03 · 41-45, F
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butterflymind1 · F
Moses implied that he was the one that gave them water. It was God.