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dale74 · M
The thing you've always got to remember is God gave us free choice God knows that we will make decisions that are not always best. But Jesus said we should think of God as a loving father more loving than any father known to man he will always forgive you and always welcome you back. Even The parables that Jesus tells of how my father should welcome their children even the child who took half of his father's wealth went and plundered it wasting it all returned with nothing the father then slaughtered the fatted calf and had a feast to celebrate the return of his son just as God would welcome you back and your past is your past God doesn't go around and bring up your past. Think of how many times you've seen a woman bring up every single thing for boyfriend did that was wrong well that just so she never actually loved him she never forgave him she just waited to throw it back in his face. No matter what you've done you are still loved.
StrictLoving · 56-60, M
We are all imperfect and fall short of the glory of God.
We are all sinners.
None of us deserve his love and mercy.
But God's love is so great, He forgives us anyway and gives us a place in heaven, just for believing and being faithful.
When you are consumed with guilt and that keeps you from God's plan for your life, the Devil wins!
You have to accept God's mercy and Jesus' sacrifice.
What Jesus did on the cross is enough to cover not only your sins, but the sins of the whole world!
Because he never sinned and is the perfect sacrifice, it is enough to cover the sins of the world.
Jesus paid the price for sins you haven't even done yet!
So don't worry about not being good enough. None of us are good enough.
Don't worry about not being worthy. None of us are worthy.
Don't worry about not being righteous. None of are righteous ... except that ...
Jesus died for our sins.
He was good enough and makes us good enough.
He was worthy, and makes us worthy.
He was righteous and makes us righteous.
His righteousness is bestowed upon you.
You didn't earn it, but you have it.
Praise God and thank Jesus for what you have.
What Jesus did is enough for everyone and that includes you.
We are all sinners.
None of us deserve his love and mercy.
But God's love is so great, He forgives us anyway and gives us a place in heaven, just for believing and being faithful.
When you are consumed with guilt and that keeps you from God's plan for your life, the Devil wins!
You have to accept God's mercy and Jesus' sacrifice.
What Jesus did on the cross is enough to cover not only your sins, but the sins of the whole world!
Because he never sinned and is the perfect sacrifice, it is enough to cover the sins of the world.
Jesus paid the price for sins you haven't even done yet!
So don't worry about not being good enough. None of us are good enough.
Don't worry about not being worthy. None of us are worthy.
Don't worry about not being righteous. None of are righteous ... except that ...
Jesus died for our sins.
He was good enough and makes us good enough.
He was worthy, and makes us worthy.
He was righteous and makes us righteous.
His righteousness is bestowed upon you.
You didn't earn it, but you have it.
Praise God and thank Jesus for what you have.
What Jesus did is enough for everyone and that includes you.
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Reverend · M
@StrictLoving I have not.
Reverend · M
@StrictLoving i was only asking not accusing you.
Pfuzylogic · M
This reminds me of scripture which you are more than likely familiar with
2 Corinthians 12:9 which was written by Saint Paul but inspired by the Holy Spirit.
2 Corinthians 12:9 which was written by Saint Paul but inspired by the Holy Spirit.
But he said to me, "My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness." Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christ's power may rest on me.
It reminds me that the test of perfection was given to Jesus and not to me. I simply accept grace through the Holy Spirit that guards me from the disbelief of the world.
karysma · 36-40, F
@cecile It's never too late. Let the Holy Spirit help you. He's with you 24/7 for a reason. Use that to your advantage cause trust me when he's done with you you'll look in the mirror and love what you see. I know I'm loving who he's helping me become and it looks just like my Heavenly Father.
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@cecile But why would you finish that way... there's no need.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
th3r0n · 41-45, M
@hippyjoe1955 wise truths brother
fionawill · F
You are as you were created and how society moulds you, religion is full of contradiction, in 1 part they say to turn the other cheek whole another part says an eye for an eye. So if try and follow the logic its not possible its meant to keep you guessing so are you perfect no, no one is, just be you and sort out the details as you go. Dont ponder on old documents written for another era.
Pinkstarburst · 51-55, F
Mistakesmakeus · M
@karysma that's a stupid point because you can commit the same sins before hand but now god can forgive you because he killed his son to forgive us
karysma · 36-40, F
@Mistakesmakeus that is how powerful the blood of Jesus is. That same here blood will get us into heaven
th3r0n · 41-45, M
@SW-User you apparently didn't read the Bible well if at all
Those laws were given and in no way impossible to follow, the evil ones who choose to reject Jesus fully deserve what they get, not that I'm glad for it as some that I love do not believe or do not follow Jesus
He is fully righteous in sending wicked ones to burn, he is creator of the universe and those that do not obey him are like weeds in a garden
Those laws were given and in no way impossible to follow, the evil ones who choose to reject Jesus fully deserve what they get, not that I'm glad for it as some that I love do not believe or do not follow Jesus
He is fully righteous in sending wicked ones to burn, he is creator of the universe and those that do not obey him are like weeds in a garden
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Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@jshm2
Adam & Eve were never immortal. They got kicked out so that they wouldn't eat from the tree of life and live forever =
Genesis 3:22 (CEV) = The Lord said, “They now know the difference between right and wrong, just as we do. But they must not be allowed to eat fruit from the tree that lets them live forever.”
To be mortal is to be flawed - it's why Adam and Eve had to leave heaven, as they were no longer "perfect" enough to stay immortal. But they sought forgiveness to God and were redeemed before they died. You should do the same.
Adam & Eve were never immortal. They got kicked out so that they wouldn't eat from the tree of life and live forever =
Genesis 3:22 (CEV) = The Lord said, “They now know the difference between right and wrong, just as we do. But they must not be allowed to eat fruit from the tree that lets them live forever.”
TheDisciplinarian · 61-69, M
@Nikki921 what Question ?
Fa8393 · 41-45, M
Christ performed his atoning sacrifice for us to rely on him through faith , if you belive in the repenting doctrine that means we need to overcome our own sins to be closer to him . We also need to serve others too . Those two things helps us become less selfish.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@Fa8393 The Jesus character was just a scapegoat.
https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?quicksearch=scapegoat&version=NKJV
https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?quicksearch=scapegoat&version=NKJV
Klingwood · 61-69, M
@Diotrephes lol if you say so
looking4thesun · M
as a good christian, I take it you believe in the traditional roles of a man and women
SimplyTracie · 26-30, F
@looking4thesun I see
looking4thesun · M
@SimplyTracie have you been in a terrible relationship?
SimplyTracie · 26-30, F
@looking4thesun I’ve never been in a relationship.
Bluesky1962 · 61-69, M
karysma · 36-40, F
All I know is that I'm a work in progress and that if I allow God to lead me where he wants me I'll be just like him someday
spjennifer · 61-69, T
I focus more on being a good human being, man is flawed and religion is flawed. I think if you lead a good, moral life and don't seek to do harm to others, you're doing ok. So much harm has been done in the name of Christianity and focusing on sin that it's always made me wonder. If the person who goes to church on Sunday to be absolved of his sins, then goes home and beats his wife and children is considered a "Good Christian" then that's not something I want to be...
Adstar · 56-60, M
@spjennifer I NEVER try to justify any bad thing i have done.. There is no point to try and justify bad deeds before the LORD when His atonement can cover all my sins in an instant.. So i adopt a Zero resistance policy towards the will of God and willingly say to Him that His will is perfect and anything i have done against His will is sin and every time i have failed to do His will is sin and thank Him for suffering death to pay the penalty for all my sins..
I am covered, absolved of all my sins, even those i do not remember.. I am in the ultimate safe space 😊 with the LORD..
So have faith ( which is trust ) in the teachings of God in the things you personally agree with and things that you don't quite understand. Acknowledging some out of agreement and acknowledging others out of Faith and all will be well for you..
Salvation is simple and His burden is light.. It's so easy to be saved if we put our pride in the back seat..
I am covered, absolved of all my sins, even those i do not remember.. I am in the ultimate safe space 😊 with the LORD..
So have faith ( which is trust ) in the teachings of God in the things you personally agree with and things that you don't quite understand. Acknowledging some out of agreement and acknowledging others out of Faith and all will be well for you..
Salvation is simple and His burden is light.. It's so easy to be saved if we put our pride in the back seat..
spjennifer · 61-69, T
@Adstar As a child I grew up singing and truly believing in "Jesus loves the little children, ALL the children of the world" and I still firmly believe that to this day, it was not "all the children of the world, except for... and... because..." and that is what I struggle mightily with and why I walked away from the religions, doesn't mean I don't believe, I just believe differently than most.
Adstar · 56-60, M
@spjennifer Yes indeed the LORD Jesus loves all human beings.. Yep.. That's why he came and suffered death to pay for our sins.. to save us from the judgement that we where facing for our sins.. He cam to save Sinners..
There is only one sin that is unforgivable and that is blasphemy of the Holy Spirit and if you want to know what that is it happened in the gospel when some evil scribes came to Jesus from Jerusalem and declared that Jesus was doing his miracles by demonic powers..
But all other sins WILL be forgiven through the Atonement of the LORD Jesus.. So if someone told you that your particular sin was unforgivable then they are guilty of preaching a false Gospel to you..
The Gospel is what the LORD declares it to be.. Not what pastor this or reverend that or evangelist so and so says.. I myself left a ""church /denomination"" after i read the Bible for myself, because i found out my former church was teaching things against the Word of God.. But i did not chuck the precious baby out with the bathwater and abandon my Faith in God..
Test your beliefs spjennifer against the template of Gods teachings.. Don't resist.. None of us can live without sinning.. But we can live in a state where we are constantly being forgiven our sins by God. We can constantly be in a state of salvation..
There is only one sin that is unforgivable and that is blasphemy of the Holy Spirit and if you want to know what that is it happened in the gospel when some evil scribes came to Jesus from Jerusalem and declared that Jesus was doing his miracles by demonic powers..
But all other sins WILL be forgiven through the Atonement of the LORD Jesus.. So if someone told you that your particular sin was unforgivable then they are guilty of preaching a false Gospel to you..
The Gospel is what the LORD declares it to be.. Not what pastor this or reverend that or evangelist so and so says.. I myself left a ""church /denomination"" after i read the Bible for myself, because i found out my former church was teaching things against the Word of God.. But i did not chuck the precious baby out with the bathwater and abandon my Faith in God..
Test your beliefs spjennifer against the template of Gods teachings.. Don't resist.. None of us can live without sinning.. But we can live in a state where we are constantly being forgiven our sins by God. We can constantly be in a state of salvation..
SW-User
You are not a failure because of your flaws.
You are a sinner.
You are justified in Christ and you no longer have to worry about it,… because you are saved and know the end of the story.
You are a sinner.
You are justified in Christ and you no longer have to worry about it,… because you are saved and know the end of the story.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@Justice4All
Remember, in the biblical fairytale Jews were scattered from Spain to Ethiopia to India.
https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?quicksearch=india&resultspp=250&version=CEB
https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?quicksearch=spain&resultspp=250&version=CEB
And what about the Jews who came from Europe? Are they descendants of biblical Jews or what?
Remember, in the biblical fairytale Jews were scattered from Spain to Ethiopia to India.
https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?quicksearch=india&resultspp=250&version=CEB
https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?quicksearch=spain&resultspp=250&version=CEB
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Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@Justice4All
Micah 5:2 (CEB) = As for you, Bethlehem of Ephrathah, though you are the least significant of Judah’s forces, one who is to be a ruler in Israel on my behalf will come out from you. His origin is from remote times, from ancient days."
Matthew 2:6 (CEB) = "You, Bethlehem, land of Judah, by no means are you least among the rulers of Judah, because from you will come one who governs, who will shepherd my people Israel.”
People were called Jews in the Old Testament. There are countless verses in all Bible versions. Of course there were no "J" words before the 1500s AD.
Yeah, but there were 6 different tribes in that land, and they were all called Jews at one time... they were called Yudeans because there was no such thing as a JEW in Jesus day.... Yudeans became Jews. In the passage you mentioned, Jesus is talking to a Samaritan. The Samaritans, Phoenicians, Canaanites, Edomites and Arabs were also integrated in with the Jews. Also, King Herod was half Arab and Half Edomite.
Technically, the Jesus character was a Galilean. He had to be born in Bethlehem in order to satisfy the prophecy.Micah 5:2 (CEB) = As for you, Bethlehem of Ephrathah, though you are the least significant of Judah’s forces, one who is to be a ruler in Israel on my behalf will come out from you. His origin is from remote times, from ancient days."
Matthew 2:6 (CEB) = "You, Bethlehem, land of Judah, by no means are you least among the rulers of Judah, because from you will come one who governs, who will shepherd my people Israel.”
People were called Jews in the Old Testament. There are countless verses in all Bible versions. Of course there were no "J" words before the 1500s AD.
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I understand... and that's a normal reaction. You should strive to be better in Christ's image. But don't let it depress you or overly affect you, cause you know you can't reach than pinnacle, and you don't have to. You are completely redeemed... and it's not even up to you - which is rather liberating. So God bless.
SW-User
I mean, what I would say is that God knows you are imperfect and that's okay. That's why Jesus died for you and for me. That's why wherever two people gather in His name He will listen.
SimplyTracie · 26-30, F
@Adstar But what is the verse supposed to mean? I always feel the spirit especially when I pray.
Adstar · 56-60, M
@SimplyTracie So do i.. So it must mean in some other way.. Something i have just asked God about.. Maybe He will enlighten me one day.. His will be done..
SimplyTracie · 26-30, F
@Adstar He might just do that. Or not.
kodiac · 22-25, M
@SW-User Thank you
Pfuzylogic · M
SimplyTracie · 26-30, F
@Mandalorian That makes you good enough. He will do the rest.
@SimplyTracie
I'm not wrong in what I said...and neither are you..
"for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus."
Romans 3:23-24
I'm not wrong in what I said...and neither are you..
"for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus."
Romans 3:23-24
SimplyTracie · 26-30, F
@Mandalorian Amen
dimfok · 26-30, M
I ain't Christian by any means, but having been raised in a place where Christianity is the major religion I'll let you think of it like this. God will judge anyone by his own standards and not in the way you might think. If you genuinely try to do your best, that is what you'll be rewarded for, no matter the actual outcome. (At least according to your religion haha, cause I don't believe in any of that tbh)
SW-User
I know there is a need to reflect and pray and work on improving oneself. But seriously, you can't be "good enough" - that's the whole point of salvation, justification and eventual sanctification.
Fa8393 · 41-45, M
Sure the atonement is important, but you can not justify yourself to be getting out of sin . The gospel of Jesus christ helps us overcome sin . Let me remind you church is for sinners not for saints .
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@Fa8393
Let me remind you church is for sinners not for saints .
Really? Please be sure to tell the guy who wrote 1 Corinthians 5:11-13 (CEB) = "11 But now I’m writing to you not to associate with anyone who calls themselves “brother” or “sister” who is sexually immoral, greedy, someone who worships false gods, an abusive person, a drunk, or a swindler. Don’t even eat with anyone like this. 12 What do I care about judging outsiders? Isn’t it your job to judge insiders? 13 God will judge outsiders. Expel the evil one from among you."
pdockal · 56-60, M
Nope and never did ... I don't believe in the structure any more (have numerous reasons)
I believe if I treat others better then I want to be treated them I'm following his way
I believe if I treat others better then I want to be treated them I'm following his way
midnightsun · 26-30, M
Dez580 · 61-69, M
I am a christian and multiple sinner. I am though often disturbed by those who claim to be the chosen ones and very happy to judge others,but never themselves.
@Dez580 I would challenge your claim to Christianity. I don’t know of any Church that embraces Naturism and the solicitation of corporal punishment.
Try again?
Try again?
Don't you just get a do over if you are a Christian, isn't that why Evangelicals forgave Trump even when he is accused of Child Rape, didn't they just forgive Roy Moore for stalking and molesting the girls he picked up at the mall when he was in his 30's. Don't you just say Hail Mary and you're good to go??
ozgirl512 · 31-35, F
Just follow your own moral compass ...
SW-User
You can have that question, but be careful falling into reliance on works.
I believe we’ve discussed a similar questions before
I believe we’ve discussed a similar questions before
RadioDust · 36-40, M
everyone has flaws, and not everyone can feel like they're good enough. All you can do is be the best you can do in your own way.
SW-User
I do wonder... but it's a rhetorical question, since by definition I am not. This is why I'm saved by Christ, cause I need it.
dale74 · M
No because I know no matter how hard I strive I can never be as good as Christ was and that should be the goal for every Christian but I do my best
Klingwood · 61-69, M
It's tough for sure. If we are honest about it. My flaws worry me deeply. Wondering if God will ever change those flaws in my life
QuietEd2019 · 31-35, M
Ahh yeah I know what you mean are we living out lives in a good way that is Christ like and furthering his kingdom
Fa8393 · 41-45, M
Christ died for us to allow us to repent and to live again , he did that for us . Our weakness are there for us to overcome them .
Boallods · 26-30, M
All the time. It's the only thing I actually doubt myself about, all the other self-doubts that I've previously (had as a non-Christian) having just disappeared.
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