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Forgiveness

I saw somebody else post about forgiveness and wanted to share my comment with the rest of you.

“I would like to share with you two simple truths: there is nothing that cannot be forgiven, and there is no one un-deserving of forgiveness.”
― Desmond Tutu, The Book of Forgiving: The Fourfold Path for Healing Ourselves and Our World

Desmond Tutu was a great man and dedicated his life to social reform. This book is an amazing book and I recommend it to everybody.
I do not expect any of you to read anything based solely on my recommendation. Do research and then decide. This is worth your time.
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Jayciedubb · 56-60, M
Some people don't think they need forgiveness. They should still be forgiven. Forgiveness brings peace to both the forgiver and the forgiven, whether they want it or not.

There's a list of people for whom I have firgiven yet they're unaware. It's not my responsibility to force my forgiveness onto anyone. To do so would likely result in more forgiveness needed.
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dragonfly46 · F
Forgiveness for some is a quest, for those like me who were betrayed and broken through childhood, it is a long journey. This statement really resonated with me. I believe it was because I was at a place to really receive it. So, I leave it here.

"Forgiveness requires a sense that bad behavior is a sign of suffering rather than malice."
-Alain de Botton
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syfy86 · 46-50, M
Desmond Tutu was a great man! Tremendous wisdom. We often hear high minded ideals, but someone who maintains and lives them in challenging times ... I respect and will listen to that person.
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smiler2012 · 61-69
@friendlykinkster i agree desmond tutu was a great man but forgive depends on the heart and soul too and whether people areable and want to forgive
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friendlykinkster · 56-60, M
@smiler2012 That's the point
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AngelUnforgiven · 51-55, F
I'm all for turning the other cheek, SOMETIMES . But I honestly cannot say that there is no one who is un-deserving of forgiveness. Some people are evil incarnate and I'm sorry they get no sympathy or forgiveness from me. For instance John Walsh of America's Most Wanted. The demon who murdered and decapitated his 6 year old son Adam does not deserve forgiveness all of us as a society should have given him street justice. I would be the 1st one in line . Anyone who harms a child gets no forgiveness from me.
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friendlykinkster · 56-60, M
@Miram I can tell by your responses that you have not read this book and yet you think your opinions are more valid than the writer's.
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Miram · 31-35, F
@friendlykinkster

I already said what I needed to. And I hope others can understand why it is necessary to not let anyone else define your healing, even me. I am also grateful that the commentor here expressed their own truth unfiltered and never romanticized. That is an acknowledgement that I find much more healing personally.

The back-and-forth defensiveness and attempting to make me think that I must prove myself to you in order to agree or disagree with this achieves nothing.

Good luck!
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friendlykinkster · 56-60, M
@Miram You really need to stop projecting, in my opinion. You might just find your amazing, happy life even more amazing and happy.
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bijouxbroussard · F
I’m familiar with him and the book. Bishop Tutu was indeed a great man.
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LaLumieri · 51-55, F
Well said
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Miram · 31-35, F
Those aren't truths, they are opinions.

The need to assert that something works for everyone is egoistic and comes from the lack of conviction in aloneness.
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friendlykinkster · 56-60, M
@Miram the assertion that something never attempted will not work stems from that same attitude.
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Miram · 31-35, F
@friendlykinkster

You make the mistake of believing it was never tried. You're only aware of your own experiences. And the writer is only channeling what he experienced himself and weaving conclusions that bring him comfort himself. He and others however do not need to tailor someone else's healing path.

I don't have to forgive everyone to live a fulfilling life. Much of what I am anyways unravels itself without the preaching.
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friendlykinkster · 56-60, M
@Miram Have you read the book that you can state what the writer experienced or is channeling? There is an old saying, "Don't knock it, until you try it" If you refuse to read the book and apply it's principles, is fine. If you live a happy, fulfilling life, good for you. There are a million self-help books out there. Do you think every one is egotistical? Can some other people, lesser than you, benefit from any of them?
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walabby · M
Hating someone is punishing yourself for something that someone else has done...
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friendlykinkster · 56-60, M
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