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What’s with the limiting of private messages?

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Staff Feedback:
There has always been a limit on the number of Private Messages a user can initiate within certain timeframes.
This is a necessary feature on pretty much any social network or communication enabled service.
It helps to reduce spam, harassment, and other unwanted behaviors from those who may abuse the private messaging feature.

Account Reputation, Account Age and other metrics (now also, VIP status), factor into the calculation of a user's active messaging quota.

The majority of users (95-99%) may never experiience such limitations.
It should only affect those who start New PM conversations at a higher than normal rate.
Since when did that start and how long do u need to wait?
Pretzel · 61-69, M
This comment has received a Note or Correction by the SimilarWorlds staff.
Some Examples of "Higher than Normal" usage:

• Creating 10 new conversations in 1 hour, with 10 different users who you have never been in contact with before.

• Creating 200 new conversations in 1 week.

There are different Time-tiers that affect different timeframes.

So, one may be able to initiate 5 conversations in one hour.

Yet they may not be able to initiate 120 (5 x 24) conversations in one day.
(Without VIP)
"higher than normal"

what is that? like once a decade?
CestManan · 46-50, F
@Pretzel Piecing together reasons - seems some people send unwanted PMs like with dirty pictures or abusive messages.

I do not know because I seldom initiate messages, even when I do, it typically goes well.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@CestManan not any more it doesn;t!
CestManan · 46-50, F
@samueltyler2 There seems to be some confusion though. Like surely there cannot be THAT many people abusing the PM system. I do not know though.
minxy · 46-50, F
It must have started today, nothing like that was happening yesterday for me.

Unless I have no idea what you're talking about.
minxy · 46-50, F
@minxy Yep, sounds like another new way for SW to get more money.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
Messaging depends on your "reputation". The amount of messages vary.

Yet if you get VIP it's "near unlimited" ...

https://similarworlds.com/vip

This has always been apart of the VIP membership since day one.

Recommend you post more as well as participate more in the open.

PMs do not increase your "reputation". Posting and replying in the groups does.

For more about what reputation effects, see the bottom of this FAQ link. It actually effects everything:

https://similarworlds.com/help/57-You-reached-the-limit-of-X-you-can-Y-for-now
JohnOinger · 41-45, M
@DeWayfarer I wonder when I will be able to message people that I never talked to before again got the limit last night and still have it
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@JohnOinger really. 😯 They for certain have been messing around with the reputation.

I hardly get any messages and almost never send them. So it really doesn't affect me.

Yet they did mention in site statistics post that most of the traffic is PMs.

Almost like they were complaining about it.

So they changed the reputation metrics. So it possibly is no longer how many posts, possibly leaning more towards replies.

I'll have to be more observant on coin accumulations to tell. One side goes down so does the other side go up.
@JohnOinger i got it too now conveniently after i said on the post that it was bs lol 😆
JohnOinger · 41-45, M
I blame the.guys who are creeps who show dick pics and harrass women in The PM's ruined it for us other guys who are innocent & Respectful
Pretzel · 61-69, M
@JohnOinger I think its strictly a revenue enhancement ploy - they won't restrict you if you have VIP
Synyster · 51-55, M
Don’t be so cheap, pay up. 😂
BackyardShaman · 61-69, M
@Synyster ha ha communications costs big money 💰
backporrch · 46-50, M
I don’t know but for the last 7 hours I can’t send a message to a person I had not messaged before!
Repete · 61-69, M
I haven’t gotten this message yet but I was wondering if it’s reputation based how can you tell your reputation? @DeWayfarer
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@Repete you can't.

You're not really supposed to know about it. Yet I've been talking about it for the whole six years that I have been on here.

Every once in a while the admin will mention it now. Such is the case with the new group creation option recently.
Repete · 61-69, M
I was thinking that was the answer . Thanks ,@DeWayfarer
Pretzel · 61-69, M
not sure got the warning with a VIP add

this might be what makes me leave
backporrch · 46-50, M
@Pretzel yep that’s the one.
Jungleman · M
to be honest i do think it's a con what they're pulling.
BackyardShaman · 61-69, M
@Jungleman we must have order!!!!
JohnOinger · 41-45, M
It has been around they just increased the limit longer
BackyardShaman · 61-69, M
I don’t know but I never message people here
They want you to sign up for VIP.
ReneeT · 61-69, M
I didn't know anything about this. I need to see just how it will affect any messages I send out.
backporrch · 46-50, M
@ReneeT this is the message
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ReneeT · 61-69, M
@backporrch Thanks. I will need to see if it every pops up for me!
btchstfu · F
idk im sorry. its literally beyond the comprehension of my little mind
JohnOinger · 41-45, M
Ugh this is so frustrating.
caesar7 · 61-69, M
@JohnOinger I know...right????😡
JohnOinger · 41-45, M
@caesar7 I emailed the Admins how long the wait is
Wizardry · 46-50, M
Haven’t gotten a message like that yet
smileylovesgaming · 31-35, F
I haven't got a message like that yet?
caesar7 · 61-69, M
This comment has received a Note or Correction by the SimilarWorlds staff.
Initiating New Private Message conversations with over 70+ different users you have never conversed with before, in under 1 month, is a fairly high amount of conversations to be starting.

We suggest that you try seeking more genuine, long-term communication peers, by looking for users who share matching interests / forums with you, also reading their profile well, before initiating contact.

These limitations are temporary, and its duration varies depending on how many messages the user has sent over the past day / week / month.
I just got it again!!!! I can no longer send messages....this has NEVER happened before. I refuse to be lured to pay for a membership. You definitely just added this not long ago. Why? Not enough advertising revenue that you have to have long-time subscribers to pay for the loss? That's what it is.....
CestManan · 46-50, F
@Pretzel 2.3 I am guessing that .3 person might be like an amputee?
@caesar7 It's ridiculous. How are you supposed to meet people if you can't DM them? And there have been plenty of times when I've sent a DM to an interesting person, and I never hear back because they never return after setting up their account.
@caesar7
try seeking more genuine, long-term communication peers

Sw giving guidance on how to make friends 🤣
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
Wasn't aware of it.
pdockal · 56-60, M
iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
There’s a reason this happens I think. Probably because of messages like this…….just saying
iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
@CestManan No it’s a guy whose older and complaining he’s getting the message saying he’s gotta wait to message.

Hmmmm…..I wonder why 🧐
JohnOinger · 41-45, M
@iamonfire696 why do the creeps have to make us gentleman look bad and get punished for it too
iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
@JohnOinger I am not sure but they do
caesar7 · 61-69, M
I don't believe that. It never, ever happened. It's a new policy, isn't it. It just happened again....now we can't chat with anyone new.....rediculous!
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
This comment has received a Note or Correction by the SimilarWorlds staff.
The VIP feature previously increased the Quota Limit of the TOTAL Number of Private Message Conversations a user can have.

For Anti-Spam / Harassment measures, priority has recently shifted more towards "Rate Limits" of New PM conversations, rather than "Total Limits".

(Rate-limits also by extension, keeps the Total Limits under control.)

Most users who have caused a lot of harassment via PM messages, never did reach near to the Total PM Limits (which can take years to hit).

Rate-limits have always been in place before, but they were too loose, and ineffective at preventing users from spamming the same type message to 100's of new users each week.
@caesar7 it's pretty much as I mentioned it, with an addition ...
(now also, VIP status)

That's new to me.
JohnOinger · 41-45, M
@caesar7 the. Creeps who are jerks to women in the PMS ruined it for us nice guys
caesar7 · 61-69, M
@JohnOinger Precisely! But the panel here just really wants to make more money. So they want you to go VIP
caesar7 · 61-69, M
This comment has received a Note or Correction by the SimilarWorlds staff.
The Message Limitations apply equally across All Genders and Ages of users.

It is likely very rare that legitimate Female users hit these limits.

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Note:

A number of users complaining about the Messaging limits, currently have pending Reports on their Private Messages:

"Reason: Pornographic, unsolicited nudity or other sexually explicit content (1 week ago)"
I wonder if it applies to women also when they contact new users....anybody know?
caesar7 · 61-69, M
@LeopoldBloom I couldn't agree more. It's those people that always seem to ruin it for the rest of us.
@caesar7 That being said, sending a DM to everyone in a particular group you're interested in may not be a good idea. I will occasionally check the groups I'm interested in for new members, and if someone looks interesting, I'll send them a DM in the hope of starting a conversation, but I'm selective. If someone has only set up a profile and has no "about me" or posts, I don't DM them.
caesar7 · 61-69, M
@LeopoldBloom Precisely one of my points.
caesar7 · 61-69, M
I just noticed that..WTF!!

 
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