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Nikola Tesla
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He was a selfless genius who was taken advantage of.
What a difference he could have made to the world if he were treated with respect and fairness in his business dealings
He was a selfless genius who was taken advantage of.
What a difference he could have made to the world if he were treated with respect and fairness in his business dealings
robertsnj · 56-60, M
i guess I would start by saying that is two questions. Morals and ethics are not synonyms. Similar but not the same. In addition both are social constructs and in that idea the proposition of a sole single individual being an archetype that reelects a group is hard for me personally to conceive. I might be able to give traits of morals or traits of ethics, again two different questions, but given that no person is so consistent that they are the embodiment of those ideals is a tough ask.
For instance you brought up MLK as good and Andrew Tate as bad. Both probably overall true but MLK cheated on his wife and wasn't much of a family man (given the intensity of his mission)
Andrew Tate, who I agree sucks overall as a human was an incredible kick boxer and probably helped a lot of other fighters in his gym get better by being in the same stable and giving out tips.
In terms of both topics, morals and ethics I think they are grey and and by listing people as archetypes we turn a grey idea, may not intentionally but in margins to more black and white.
To give you an example of something you hold dear, politics, ex president Bill Clinton, saved our oil economy with NAFTA and in the process helped our neighbors to the north and the south but watched the most horrific genocide in modern history in terms of speed and intensity -Rwanda without lifting a finger. His sexual pressure on women wasn't good. His policies helped more people then it hurt. it would be hard to pin him down as a rep for moral or ethical but policies he pushed through--many that were championed by economic or foreign advisors could all be dissected to some degree and nuggets of what is moral or ethical could be mined (extrapolated) from those ideas.
I am not confident arch types exist but cultural postulations of broad themes of either morals or ethics is digestible and the common theme at least the USA's political landscape under the label culture wars
For instance you brought up MLK as good and Andrew Tate as bad. Both probably overall true but MLK cheated on his wife and wasn't much of a family man (given the intensity of his mission)
Andrew Tate, who I agree sucks overall as a human was an incredible kick boxer and probably helped a lot of other fighters in his gym get better by being in the same stable and giving out tips.
In terms of both topics, morals and ethics I think they are grey and and by listing people as archetypes we turn a grey idea, may not intentionally but in margins to more black and white.
To give you an example of something you hold dear, politics, ex president Bill Clinton, saved our oil economy with NAFTA and in the process helped our neighbors to the north and the south but watched the most horrific genocide in modern history in terms of speed and intensity -Rwanda without lifting a finger. His sexual pressure on women wasn't good. His policies helped more people then it hurt. it would be hard to pin him down as a rep for moral or ethical but policies he pushed through--many that were championed by economic or foreign advisors could all be dissected to some degree and nuggets of what is moral or ethical could be mined (extrapolated) from those ideas.
I am not confident arch types exist but cultural postulations of broad themes of either morals or ethics is digestible and the common theme at least the USA's political landscape under the label culture wars

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Bill Gates?
Oh sorry I thought you said immoral 🤣
Oh sorry I thought you said immoral 🤣
Thodsis · 51-55, M
All of us.
We've been doing this for thousands of years.
We don't need leaders.
We just need us.
We've been doing this for thousands of years.
We don't need leaders.
We just need us.
Bignakedguy · 31-35, M
Maybe Princess Diana and Audrey Hepburn?
@Bignakedguy Why princess Diana?
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Rahul Gandhi.
TurtleEclipseOfTheHeart · 22-25, F
Me
BigImo · 26-30, F
Me

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Jesus
ViciDraco · 41-45, M
My grasp of history isn't strong enough to identify them. Many of our well known historical figures were deeply morally flawed. The phrase never meet your heroes speaks to that. Most moral and ethical people tend to go unknown by history, I believe. And many of the figures we celebrate we only see a partial image of.
thatbuggerpaul · 100+, M
Hitler
GuyWithOpinions · 31-35, M
Ghandi
MethDozer · M
@GuyWithOpinions hardly
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
Well I don't think there's anyone truly perfect as all people shit and fart for instance. But I am fond of the Dali Lama.
Runner up includes:
Dr. Ozel Clifford Brazil
Runner up includes:
Dr. Ozel Clifford Brazil
pancakeslam · 46-50, M
George Washington
SkeetSkeet · 100+, F
Jesus
Albert Schweitzer.