England were awful

@Barny52 I never thought I'd live to see the day when a Brit actually called the US men's soccer team the better team. The women's team, sure, but the men's?

@DunningKruger better team while we had an off day !!! No they were better on the day

@DunningKruger Credit where credit is due. The US football team were better than we were and now they're through to the next round. Best of luck to them.

@Gangstress No aggression or passing. England played by numbers, like a training session.

@LizOwen I think they were scared but think they have the measure of Wales.

Ie scared to lose.

@Raymuundo Maybe so- we'll see on Tuesday.

@jackieash27 Nothing to try - Qatar won the Asia Cup in 2019 and hosted the competition in 1988 and 2011. In their own backyard, they can be a decent team. This year they came against better teams on the day - that's football. It's a world wide game with universal appeal.

@LizOwen Try to recall Qatar's World Cup history. Take as long as you like.

@jackieash27 I believe it's their first time in the World Cup. They qualify as hosts- as England did in 1966, the only time we won. Spreading the game can only be positive: football is not a closed shop, thank goodness. In 74, Zaire were the first African team to enter after winning the Africa Cup. Let's hope that European and South American teams can be challenged by Asian, Australasian, North American and African nations to create a truly 'World' Cup.

Do extra errands yourself! 😀@Miram

@AbbeyP No 😃

@Abstraction I have heard that. Why stay in a class-ridden country with no social mobility and where you have to touch your forelock to an arrogant shit of a landowner when you can live in a much freer country?

@LizOwen Are you Scottish? My old Canadian aunt born in 1800s told me the family story of why our ancestor moved to Canada from Scotland. One of our ancestors got ripped off by his own brother in the early 1800s (asked him to write a cheque when he didn't have his glasses on and emptied his bank account.) So he said to his wife. (and Auntie Ruby did the accent beautifully) 'That's it. We're getting oot. I would'n' breathe the air of the same country as that man.'
This is I think probably most accurate historical account of the invention of golf.
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@Abstraction No, I'm English. My husband was Scottish, from Dundee.

@LizOwen Yes of course they will be but their talisman Bale to me looks half a yard short and past his best because England drop points against the US I think they will go for it against Wales to ensure qualification.

@benJohnson99 bale is awful.

@benJohnson99 Both teams will be up for it but England has a huge player pool to pick - about twenty times Wales's - and should have better players. Wales might have more fire, though.

@Golfer I think both teams had trouble finding the goal.

@wonkywinky So they should - they defeated a nation with a less than impressive football history and another with less than twentieth the population, while drawing with a nation where football is only a minority sport. Given our resources, we were terrible.

@wonkywinky Against very weak sides. Similarly, Senegal were awful in the first knockout match.

@Strictmichael75 Very much so.
Back to reality, I am afraid.