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I have a science question?

If you fill a large glass with ice, then fill it to the top with water, as the ice melts how long will it take for the glass to start overflowing?
TexChik · F
My point is to bring to light the blatant lie the leftist global warming nuts keep telling. They claim the polar ice will melt and the ocean levels will rise, and all of our coastal cities will be under water...if we don't sent them all our money and die. Meanwhile obama and al gore both have giant multimillion dollar home...right on the waterfront. 🤷‍♀️
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@TexChik

Nor do they mind how inept you are.

Barny52 · 56-60, M
@TexChik isn’t most of the world’s ice sat on land in one big lump so if it melts it spreads out,, not sure
robb65 · 56-60, M
@Thinkerbell That reminds me, I've known people who couldn't make a living with their skills so they decided to either become a teacher or write a book about their skills. You know, the carpenter/cabinetmaker who somehow managed to get a job teaching in a trade school or maybe in a state prison somewhere because it pays better than actually building something.
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
It won’t because I pick out the ice when it softens up and munch on it. Especially in this type of weather.
robb65 · 56-60, M
I'm somewhat reluctant to even bring this up, but there is a theory that we are way overdue for another major ice age, and I don't mean a gradual cooling over several years with the temps eventually reaching a point where we are "uncomfortable" and can no longer grow crops.

The thing that shocked me when I first heard this is that we have proof that this has happened in the past. Every kid who has eve taken a science class knows the story of the woolly Mammoth that was found frozen to death with a flower still in its mouth, but no one ever pointed out how fast or how low the temps would need to drop in order to freeze an animal the size of a Mammoth before it could swallow its last meal.
I can't say how likely this is to happen, but at least the claim is more credible than believing that if we don't somehow turn back the world's "thermostat" by a few fractions of a degree then in a hundred years or so the sea levels are going to rise by so many feet and life as we know it will come to an end due to "global warming".
robb65 · 56-60, M
@hippyjoe1955 lol. Stanley was a genius at putting together sound systems. If you've been around any setups where the speakers are behind the microphones you know what happens if they aren't tuned just right. Stanley came up with a solution that as far as I know no one else ever tried to copy. If you look at the Grateful Dead concerts from back in the day there were always two microphones mounted a few inches apart, I think they were actually made that was as a single unit. So the two microphones were wired into a single circuit, parallel I believe creating a split second delay between the sound reaching one microphone and the next, and somehow, in spite of being directly in front of a stack of speakers many feet high this canceled out the feedback. That, and the fact that he was responsible for a very large amount of the acid produced in the US in the mid to late 60's is what made him famous.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@robb65 And my acid dropping buddy spent all night one night staring at a fence post. His contribution to society and dorm life???? Yeah pretty much non existent. It wasn't the acid that made Stanley a genius.
robb65 · 56-60, M
@hippyjoe1955 No, obviously not. He seems to have been mostly self taught in a way that very few people could pull off. Dropped out of high school but but managed to get admitted to a University Engineering program, dropped out of that in spite of apparently having excellent grades and managed to get a job working for a company building cruise missiles Then joined the militarily as an electronics specialist. Where exactly he gained his chemistry background IDK. I've read over the synthesis for acid and it isn't something that would be easy to figure out and pull off in a backyard lab without a very good background in Chemistry.
MasterLee · 56-60, M
Archemedes was a smart fellow.

The bouyancy of ice displaces water. As is melts, this bouyancy decreases as the density of frozen ice decreases.

In short, it is the same. However there may be loss due to evaporation so in fact the water level may decrease slightly.

Now alarmists claim if all the ice melts, sea levels rise 270 ft. However that figure is a lot closer to 216 feet. What they fail to mention is that scenario may take well over 1000 years and it does not account for changes.

The world goes through cycles. If we had listened to these same alarmists in the 70s, we would be under polar ice now deep in an ice age.

Realistically the water may rise but one foot won't make the papers. To sell fear we use maximum numbers.
Pinkstarburst · 51-55, F
It will not rise; however, after the ice in the glass melts, if more melted ice (water) is added, the glass will over flow. Glaciers are ice formations on land masses. They are not currently in water. As they melt, they will increase the volume of the ocean.

It’s much like snow melting from mountains in the spring that create flooding in rivers, destroying land masses. It’s why many dams have been built. They “protect” human encroachment.
TexChik · F
@Pinkstarburst The water rise from land based glaciers would be negligible, however the left claims its the floating Ice pack that will make the ocean levels rise. They never talk about the natural rise and fall of land masses due to geological reasons. They only say the water is rising. And that your money will stop it.
Pinkstarburst · 51-55, F
@TexChik But you asked a science question. Not a political question. I don’t really care what either side says about it. Global warming is a natural occurrence of our planet. It’s happening with or without human cause. The sooner the masses realize and educate themselves the better everyone will be. Personally? I’m exhausted and discouraged that people, in general, take all of their common sense cues from politicians.
TexChik · F
@Pinkstarburst My point was that many people fail to use the basic science they know to be true to filter through the bullshit some political factions wish to claim. Climate change is and always will be in flux. The earth "wobbles" on its axis varying the areas that take most of the solar radiation and thereby changing weather patterns. The sun, which is the provider of all that radiation also is in a state of flux. Currently the sun is supposedly in a "cooling phase", which means fewer solar flares and solar surface activity. When that happened in the 70's a certain political faction claimed a manmade ice age was happening and they needed money to stop it. Of the 41 disasters claimed to be swooping down on us because we are destroying the planet (by the same political faction), not one has even remotely happened.
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
It won't overflow at all, if you can neglect the (very small) thermal expansion of the water as its temperature rises to ambient temperature after the ice melts.
It never will, water expands in its solid form.
Matthew414 · 31-35, M
From what I remember from my fluid mechanics class in college (engineering major here) the water will not overflow the cup when the ice melts. Nor would the water overflow the land masses if the glaciers melt.
therighttothink50 · 56-60, M
The exact height will remain the same, the mass of ice cubes are already taken into consideration. You might even lose a few drops in a hot environment due to condensation and evaporation.
It won't, of course. Excellent analogy to highlight lie #617 of the global warming agenda.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@BizSuitStacy One minor nit to pick. If the arctic ice cap melts nothing will happen to the ocean level since the arctic ice cap is on water. However the Greenland glacier and the other ones including Antarctica are on land and should they melt and run off they will raise the level of the oceans. Not that the land based glaciers are going to melt any time soon. If your average temperature is -18 C raising the temperature 1 degree won't melt any ice. Sadly for the AGW crowd history shows their theory is histrionics not factual. The earth is a very stable place and not prone to major disasters based on minimal inputs. We are at the very low end of the CO2 levels given what we know of the past. Some say that we are at 400 ppm when we know in the past life thrived and 2000 ppm.
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
I believe water has more mass in solid form than in liquid form so the water level would drop.
vetguy1991 · 51-55, M
It never will ice, like at the north pole is less dense than water that's why ice floats
Degbeme · 70-79, M
TexChik · F
@Degbeme because?
Degbeme · 70-79, M
@TexChik Because the ice is frozen water and it displaces any water you add to it. There is a scientific term for it of which I am not qualified. I just know the basics.
4meAndyou · F
Since I usually start sipping when the water is nice and cold, I have never observed the water level after the ice melts.

However, I could theorize that the glass will never overflow.
TexChik · F
@4meAndyou common sense and your lifelong daily observance of the 3 states of matter tells you it will not overflow.
4meAndyou · F
@TexChik So...are you saying that AOC and ALL the globalists and ALL the Democrats don't have a jot of common sense? 🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪

🤣🤣🤣
PatKirby · M
Nothing will happen as the water level does not change when floating ice melts. Ice floats because it is less dense (0.9 gm/cc) at 0°C than water (1 gm/cc) with a proportion of its surface below water level as to displace its own weight in water. When ice melts, water produced by the ice will exactly fill the original volume that the frozen water has displaced. The floating ice is already displacing a volume of water equivalent to its mass, therefore no change in level.
Viper · M
Depends, how long will it take for someone to add more water to make it overflow.

Water is one of the odd items where it's solid form is actually larger volume than it's liquid form. So it'll underflow, instead of overflow as the ice melts. As ice takes up more room, which can be proven by throwing a full water bottle in the freezer, and it will destroy the bottle.
Gusman · 61-69, M
From what I can tell, the glass will not overflow because ice takes up more room than water.
With the melting of ice on the surface of the planet, sea levels will rise, because the above sea level ice will flow into the sea, raising the level.
TexChik · F
@Gusman In theory, they are claiming the polar ice packs will melt creating a global flood. That just is not true. The water displacement of the ice on top of the water is causing the water levels to be what they are. If the ice melts, the water level will not change.
Gusman · 61-69, M
@TexChik The ice cap sits on top of solid rock, above sea level, ie; Greenland and Antarctica are solid rock covered with ice
MarineBob · 56-60, M
Sitting a full glass of ice water on your Ram
MrBrownstone · 46-50, M
It won’t overflow
robb65 · 56-60, M
I'm thinking water expands as it freezes so when it melts it will take up less space. It shouldn't overflow as long as the ice wasn't sticking up WAAY above the glass to begin with.

 
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