I have a science question?
If you fill a large glass with ice, then fill it to the top with water, as the ice melts how long will it take for the glass to start overflowing?
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robb65 · 56-60, M
I'm somewhat reluctant to even bring this up, but there is a theory that we are way overdue for another major ice age, and I don't mean a gradual cooling over several years with the temps eventually reaching a point where we are "uncomfortable" and can no longer grow crops.
The thing that shocked me when I first heard this is that we have proof that this has happened in the past. Every kid who has eve taken a science class knows the story of the woolly Mammoth that was found frozen to death with a flower still in its mouth, but no one ever pointed out how fast or how low the temps would need to drop in order to freeze an animal the size of a Mammoth before it could swallow its last meal.
I can't say how likely this is to happen, but at least the claim is more credible than believing that if we don't somehow turn back the world's "thermostat" by a few fractions of a degree then in a hundred years or so the sea levels are going to rise by so many feet and life as we know it will come to an end due to "global warming".
The thing that shocked me when I first heard this is that we have proof that this has happened in the past. Every kid who has eve taken a science class knows the story of the woolly Mammoth that was found frozen to death with a flower still in its mouth, but no one ever pointed out how fast or how low the temps would need to drop in order to freeze an animal the size of a Mammoth before it could swallow its last meal.
I can't say how likely this is to happen, but at least the claim is more credible than believing that if we don't somehow turn back the world's "thermostat" by a few fractions of a degree then in a hundred years or so the sea levels are going to rise by so many feet and life as we know it will come to an end due to "global warming".
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@robb65 I have often pointed out the deaths of the mammoths and how they were NOT ice age animals. An animal like the mammoth requires immense amounts of food to survive. The volume of food for just one animal to survive would not exist near a glacier let alone a herd of mammoths that have been uncovered in Siberia. Something very cold happened very rapidly that wiped them out.
robb65 · 56-60, M
@hippyjoe1955 Exactly. I'm coming down from a trip and it's taking me a minute to come up with the name which is really ironic... considering it was Owsley Stanley who I heard this from. He left the US and moved to Australia because he believed this was imminent. There is, or at least was a very long very detailed video on youtube he made before his death explaining why and how he believed this would happen.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@robb65 Are you thinking of the sudden axis shift hypothesis where the earth suddenly tilts one way or another in such a way as the poles change position very rapidly?
robb65 · 56-60, M
@hippyjoe1955 It's been a very long time and I think I slept through part of the explanation, like I said it was loong. As best as I can remember it had something to do with ocean currents shifting, something something something, currents shift weather patterns change, and then it corrects and goes back the other way, but there's a chance with the perfect storm of events it doesn't correct and everything gets really cold really quick
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@robb65 Yeah there was a novel out I think it was the Haps Theory or some such thing that said the polar icecaps got so large that the earth tipped over. It was a romping good read and it was based on the rapid pole shift hypothesis. I don't subscribe to it but it remains an interesting thought experiment.
robb65 · 56-60, M
@hippyjoe1955 I'm gonna look for the video and post a link when I find it. It was something I accidentally stumbled across a few years ago due to my interest in certain recreational substances and naturally the path lead to me reading anything I could find about Bear Stanley, Sasha Shulgin, and the others of that era.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@robb65 OK. I don't do drugs at all so it will be interesting to see if our interests coincide.
robb65 · 56-60, M
@hippyjoe1955 You do know who Stanley was though right? I once had a similar conversation with my parents who never did drugs and was unaware that I did and had to quickly figure out how to explain who Ken Kesey was and why they should have known the name. After thinking for a minute I remembered and said "you know, he was the guy who wrote One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest."
BTW Stanley was the guy who designed "The Wall of Sound" for the Grateful Dead.
BTW Stanley was the guy who designed "The Wall of Sound" for the Grateful Dead.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@robb65 I have heard of him before but I have not in any way read anything he wrote. When I was a freshman at university just off the farm I witnessed a dorm mate on acid. I decided then and there to not use it. We had an old TV in the rec room and we could get two channels on it. He switched the TV on then went to a channel to watch what we used to call snow. He said he was seeing all kinds of patterns and finding meaning. I left him to his fun after about 2 minutes.
robb65 · 56-60, M
@hippyjoe1955 lol. Stanley was a genius at putting together sound systems. If you've been around any setups where the speakers are behind the microphones you know what happens if they aren't tuned just right. Stanley came up with a solution that as far as I know no one else ever tried to copy. If you look at the Grateful Dead concerts from back in the day there were always two microphones mounted a few inches apart, I think they were actually made that was as a single unit. So the two microphones were wired into a single circuit, parallel I believe creating a split second delay between the sound reaching one microphone and the next, and somehow, in spite of being directly in front of a stack of speakers many feet high this canceled out the feedback. That, and the fact that he was responsible for a very large amount of the acid produced in the US in the mid to late 60's is what made him famous.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@robb65 And my acid dropping buddy spent all night one night staring at a fence post. His contribution to society and dorm life???? Yeah pretty much non existent. It wasn't the acid that made Stanley a genius.
robb65 · 56-60, M
@hippyjoe1955 No, obviously not. He seems to have been mostly self taught in a way that very few people could pull off. Dropped out of high school but but managed to get admitted to a University Engineering program, dropped out of that in spite of apparently having excellent grades and managed to get a job working for a company building cruise missiles Then joined the militarily as an electronics specialist. Where exactly he gained his chemistry background IDK. I've read over the synthesis for acid and it isn't something that would be easy to figure out and pull off in a backyard lab without a very good background in Chemistry.