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1. “Only U.S. Citizens Should Vote in U.S. Elections”
Current Legal Framework:
Federal Elections: The U.S. Constitution and federal law currently restrict voting in federal elections (such as presidential and congressional elections) to U.S. citizens. Voting rights for federal elections are regulated under various laws, including the Voting Rights Act of 1965 and relevant constitutional amendments (e.g., the 15th, 19th, and 26th Amendments).
State and Local Elections: While most states restrict voting in state and local elections to U.S. citizens, there are some exceptions. For instance, certain jurisdictions, such as New York City and San Francisco, have historically allowed non-citizens to vote in specific local elections (e.g., school board elections). These laws are often contentious and subject to debate and legal challenges.
Political Arguments:
Pro-Citizenship Voting Advocates: Proponents argue that voting is a fundamental right of citizenship, embodying the social contract where citizens influence policies and elect leaders. They claim that extending this right exclusively to citizens ensures the integrity of the democratic process and reflects the commitment of participants to the nation’s laws and shared identity.
Counter-Arguments: Opponents highlight that non-citizen residents, including lawful permanent residents, contribute to society through taxes, civic engagement, and other means. They argue that non-citizens should have a voice in decisions affecting their communities, particularly in local elections.
Social Impact:
Limiting voting rights to citizens can reinforce national identity and allegiance but can also marginalize long-term residents who are not citizens, leading to debates on social cohesion and representation.
2. “Only U.S. Citizens Should Receive U.S. Benefits”
Legal Context:
Entitlement Programs: Many U.S. social welfare benefits, such as Social Security and Medicare, are restricted to citizens and certain non-citizens, such as lawful permanent residents who meet eligibility criteria. Federal law, through the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act of 1996, limits access to many public benefits for non-citizens.
Emergency Assistance and Exceptions: Non-citizens may still be eligible for specific public benefits, including emergency medical assistance, disaster relief, and certain nutritional programs. Refugees and asylees, given their unique status, are also eligible for various forms of assistance.
Political and Economic Arguments:
Restrictive Viewpoint: Advocates of restricting benefits to citizens argue that taxpayer resources should be reserved for those who have formal allegiance to the country. They contend that providing benefits to non-citizens can strain public resources and potentially incentivize illegal immigration.
Counter-Arguments: Critics argue that many non-citizens contribute to the economy by paying taxes and filling vital roles in the workforce. Denying them benefits, especially those related to health and welfare, could have adverse social and economic consequences. They stress that investing in all residents' well-being can lead to a healthier and more productive society.
Economic Considerations:
Economists often debate the net fiscal impact of immigrants (both documented and undocumented). While immigrants contribute through taxes, their usage of public benefits is scrutinized to evaluate whether it creates a fiscal surplus or deficit for the government.
3. “Only U.S. Citizens Should Be Counted in the U.S. Census”
Constitutional Basis:
The U.S. Census is mandated by Article I, Section 2 of the U.S. Constitution to count the “whole number of persons” in each state every ten years. The Census has historically counted all residents, regardless of citizenship or immigration status, to determine congressional representation and allocate federal funding.
Court Rulings: Legal precedent supports the counting of all residents. Attempts to include questions about citizenship in the Census have faced significant legal and political challenges. In 2019, the Supreme Court ruled against adding a citizenship question to the 2020 Census, citing procedural issues.
Political Arguments:
Pro-Citizen Count Advocates: Some argue that counting only citizens would ensure that political representation and resources are allocated based solely on the citizen population. This view aligns with the idea that political power should reflect the citizenry rather than the total number of residents, which includes non-citizens and undocumented immigrants.
Counter-Arguments: Opponents highlight that the Census is intended to provide a comprehensive demographic snapshot, which includes all residents. They argue that excluding non-citizens would distort population data, affecting representation in the House of Representatives and skewing federal funding allocations for states and communities. Accurate data, inclusive of all residents, is crucial for effective public policy and resource distribution.
Social and Economic Implications:
Counting only citizens could result in underrepresentation for areas with high non-citizen populations, which are often urban and diverse. This could shift political power away from those regions and reduce their federal funding, impacting public services like education, healthcare, and infrastructure.
Fears of exclusion from the Census might also deter participation among non-citizens, regardless of their legal status, leading to broader data inaccuracies.
Conclusion:
The statements in the image reflect strong positions on issues related to citizenship, voting rights, public benefits, and demographic representation. These topics are often at the intersection of constitutional law, public policy, and political philosophy. The ongoing debates center around the balance between national identity and inclusive representation, fiscal responsibility versus social welfare, and the constitutional interpretation of citizenship and residency.
The arguments on both sides involve deeply held beliefs about democracy, human rights, and the role of government. Understanding these perspectives can foster more informed discussions about the implications of laws and policies affecting citizens and non-citizens alike.
Current Legal Framework:
Federal Elections: The U.S. Constitution and federal law currently restrict voting in federal elections (such as presidential and congressional elections) to U.S. citizens. Voting rights for federal elections are regulated under various laws, including the Voting Rights Act of 1965 and relevant constitutional amendments (e.g., the 15th, 19th, and 26th Amendments).
State and Local Elections: While most states restrict voting in state and local elections to U.S. citizens, there are some exceptions. For instance, certain jurisdictions, such as New York City and San Francisco, have historically allowed non-citizens to vote in specific local elections (e.g., school board elections). These laws are often contentious and subject to debate and legal challenges.
Political Arguments:
Pro-Citizenship Voting Advocates: Proponents argue that voting is a fundamental right of citizenship, embodying the social contract where citizens influence policies and elect leaders. They claim that extending this right exclusively to citizens ensures the integrity of the democratic process and reflects the commitment of participants to the nation’s laws and shared identity.
Counter-Arguments: Opponents highlight that non-citizen residents, including lawful permanent residents, contribute to society through taxes, civic engagement, and other means. They argue that non-citizens should have a voice in decisions affecting their communities, particularly in local elections.
Social Impact:
Limiting voting rights to citizens can reinforce national identity and allegiance but can also marginalize long-term residents who are not citizens, leading to debates on social cohesion and representation.
2. “Only U.S. Citizens Should Receive U.S. Benefits”
Legal Context:
Entitlement Programs: Many U.S. social welfare benefits, such as Social Security and Medicare, are restricted to citizens and certain non-citizens, such as lawful permanent residents who meet eligibility criteria. Federal law, through the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act of 1996, limits access to many public benefits for non-citizens.
Emergency Assistance and Exceptions: Non-citizens may still be eligible for specific public benefits, including emergency medical assistance, disaster relief, and certain nutritional programs. Refugees and asylees, given their unique status, are also eligible for various forms of assistance.
Political and Economic Arguments:
Restrictive Viewpoint: Advocates of restricting benefits to citizens argue that taxpayer resources should be reserved for those who have formal allegiance to the country. They contend that providing benefits to non-citizens can strain public resources and potentially incentivize illegal immigration.
Counter-Arguments: Critics argue that many non-citizens contribute to the economy by paying taxes and filling vital roles in the workforce. Denying them benefits, especially those related to health and welfare, could have adverse social and economic consequences. They stress that investing in all residents' well-being can lead to a healthier and more productive society.
Economic Considerations:
Economists often debate the net fiscal impact of immigrants (both documented and undocumented). While immigrants contribute through taxes, their usage of public benefits is scrutinized to evaluate whether it creates a fiscal surplus or deficit for the government.
3. “Only U.S. Citizens Should Be Counted in the U.S. Census”
Constitutional Basis:
The U.S. Census is mandated by Article I, Section 2 of the U.S. Constitution to count the “whole number of persons” in each state every ten years. The Census has historically counted all residents, regardless of citizenship or immigration status, to determine congressional representation and allocate federal funding.
Court Rulings: Legal precedent supports the counting of all residents. Attempts to include questions about citizenship in the Census have faced significant legal and political challenges. In 2019, the Supreme Court ruled against adding a citizenship question to the 2020 Census, citing procedural issues.
Political Arguments:
Pro-Citizen Count Advocates: Some argue that counting only citizens would ensure that political representation and resources are allocated based solely on the citizen population. This view aligns with the idea that political power should reflect the citizenry rather than the total number of residents, which includes non-citizens and undocumented immigrants.
Counter-Arguments: Opponents highlight that the Census is intended to provide a comprehensive demographic snapshot, which includes all residents. They argue that excluding non-citizens would distort population data, affecting representation in the House of Representatives and skewing federal funding allocations for states and communities. Accurate data, inclusive of all residents, is crucial for effective public policy and resource distribution.
Social and Economic Implications:
Counting only citizens could result in underrepresentation for areas with high non-citizen populations, which are often urban and diverse. This could shift political power away from those regions and reduce their federal funding, impacting public services like education, healthcare, and infrastructure.
Fears of exclusion from the Census might also deter participation among non-citizens, regardless of their legal status, leading to broader data inaccuracies.
Conclusion:
The statements in the image reflect strong positions on issues related to citizenship, voting rights, public benefits, and demographic representation. These topics are often at the intersection of constitutional law, public policy, and political philosophy. The ongoing debates center around the balance between national identity and inclusive representation, fiscal responsibility versus social welfare, and the constitutional interpretation of citizenship and residency.
The arguments on both sides involve deeply held beliefs about democracy, human rights, and the role of government. Understanding these perspectives can foster more informed discussions about the implications of laws and policies affecting citizens and non-citizens alike.
22Michelle · 61-69, T
@FrogManSometimesLooksBothWays Away with your facts and evidence it's simple slogans for simpletons we want!
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@FrogManSometimesLooksBothWays Perhaps citizenship should be something that can be earned (or lost) rather than randomly distributed to people who are accidentally born in a certain territory. So those who work hard, pay their taxes, look out for their neighbours, and do not break the law, can become citizens even though they were born elsewhere. While those who evade taxes, break the law, and incite hatred of others may forfeit their citizenship on the grounds that they are not good citizens.
Now that would be a radical idea 🙂
Now that would be a radical idea 🙂
ONLY US CITIZENS SHOULD PAY US TAXES
Yeah, you don't get to cherry pick whichever "perks" you want from people while denying them the chance to benefit from the same system their taxes go into.
And, before you start with "Blah, blah, blah, illegal aliens" waffle, If US citizens want to leave the US and become citizens of another country - why should they continue to pay US taxes??? They clearly don't want to vote in US elections, receive "benefits" or be counted in your census or they wouldn't have obtained citizenship of another country.
Yeah, you don't get to cherry pick whichever "perks" you want from people while denying them the chance to benefit from the same system their taxes go into.
And, before you start with "Blah, blah, blah, illegal aliens" waffle, If US citizens want to leave the US and become citizens of another country - why should they continue to pay US taxes??? They clearly don't want to vote in US elections, receive "benefits" or be counted in your census or they wouldn't have obtained citizenship of another country.
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jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Good try at changing your tune Hoot after your original nonsense was blown out of the water. Read up on why there is an exit tax and report back to us please. @HootyTheNightOwl @cherokeepatti @Shaveit
@jackjjackson My question remains the same as in my opening post
So, I fail to see how you're accusing me of "changing my tune" - when you clearly didn't read...
If US citizens want to leave the US and become citizens of another country - why should they continue to pay US taxes???
So, I fail to see how you're accusing me of "changing my tune" - when you clearly didn't read...
ninalanyon · 61-69, T
@cherokeepatti If the country really wanted to fix the problem of people working without paying taxes then it would go after the employers. Make them pay payroll taxes (and fines for failing to do so in the past) and they would soon start registering their workers correctly and withholding taxes to be remitted to the tax authorities.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
daydeeo · 61-69, M
You're such an extremist.
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Shaveit · 61-69, M
Only if you are fair to US citizens.
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SomeMichGuy · M
Those are already done.
Confined · 56-60, M
This
Bhs123 · 36-40, F
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/07/nyregion/migrant-debit-cards-nyc.html
Donotfolowme · 51-55, F
Zonuss · 41-45, M
I agree.
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