Why is it that

Every time maga has an event, a huge number of people are injured or die?

40 people at the parade. While there was no violence, why was this number so high?!

At the "No Kings" protest, over 12 million attended and 1 person died. Only one.

It's like death and misery physically follows maga like a shroud.

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Madmonk · M

You asked why it seems like every time MAGA has an event, people get injured or die. Let’s break that down with some facts.

At the MAGA parade in question the one modeled after a military-style celebration there were reports of around 40 people being injured. But here’s the important detail: those injuries weren’t due to violence or attacks. According to Time Magazine, most of the incidents were medical in nature things like heat exhaustion, crowd-related stress, and minor accidents. No one was assaulted. There were no riots. Just a dense crowd on a hot day with poor crowd control and not enough shade.

Now compare that to the “No Kings” protests. That movement reportedly brought out between four to six million people across thousands of cities, according to estimates cited in The Daily Beast and data analyst G. Elliott Morris. Despite the massive turnout, the protests were overwhelmingly peaceful. There was one fatality a shooting in Utah that police are still investigating but overall, there were very few incidents. The Washington Post confirmed that outside of that, there were only some scattered threats and vehicle-related injuries, and nothing organized or widespread.

So why the difference?

Part of it comes down to the structure of the events. The MAGA parade was one centralized event in Washington, DC, with a concentrated crowd in difficult weather conditions. That kind of setup is much more likely to result in heat injuries and other physical issues especially with older attendees. On the other hand, the “No Kings” movement was decentralized and spread out across the country. That made for smaller local crowds and reduced the risk of large-scale problems.

Another factor is planning and intent. The “No Kings” protests were highly organized, with local leadership, marshals, and often community or police coordination to keep things under control. The parade, while flashy, didn’t have the same kind of infrastructure to manage the crowd’s health and movement.

So no its not that MAGA events are cursed or followed by a shroud of death. It’s that different kinds of events bring different risks. The MAGA parade happened in tough physical conditions without much crowd support. The “No Kings” protests were well-organized and distributed across a wide area. That’s the real reason for the difference in outcomes.

Sources: Time Magazine, The Washington Post, The Daily Beast.

samueltyler2 · 80-89, M

@Madmonk are you saying that the event on DC was poorly organized? If so that makes it worse. Our local event's only organization was you had to sign up to learn the location of the event! .

Madmonk · M

@samueltyler2 those are the facts. If that’s the implication then so be it

Teslin · M

@Madmonk Thank you for your comments. I only have 2 questions regarding this.
1) You mentioned the No Kings protest were well planned out in advance. I only assume the MAGA parade was, or should have been as well?
2) You noted heat exhaustion in DC due to the warm weather. Since the No Kings were spread out throughout the country. I can only assume many were held in even warmer climates then DC?

Again, no disrespect intended. Just stating my thoughts.

Madmonk · M

@Teslin Thank you for your reply. I appreciate the respectful tone and your thoughtful questions. I’ll do my best to clarify with what I’ve found.

First, about the planning: yes, the MAGA parade was certainly planned in advance, but the nature of that planning was different. The “No Kings” protests were decentralized, with thousands of smaller events across the country. These protests were often locally organized, which meant cities and communities could prepare in ways that made sense for their specific location. According to data cited by The Daily Beast and other analysts, the protests involved a large degree of coordination on the ground, including volunteers, water distribution, and communication with local authorities. In contrast, the MAGA parade in D.C. was a centralized event with a massive crowd in one location. While it was planned logistically, the available evidence suggests the crowd control and health accommodations may not have been adequate. Time Magazine noted that the majority of injuries at that event were due to medical issues like heat exhaustion and not due to any intentional violence or attacks.

To your second question, you’re right to point out that many of the “No Kings” protests took place in cities with even higher temperatures than Washington, D.C. Cities like Phoenix, Dallas, and Atlanta are often hotter in June and July. However, the key difference is how the crowds functioned. The protests were generally spread out, mobile, and allowed for movement and dispersal. People were not standing shoulder-to-shoulder for long periods. In contrast, during the MAGA parade, the crowd was packed into a smaller space, often standing still on pavement and concrete with limited access to shade. That kind of setup creates a hotter microclimate, increasing the risk of heat-related incidents even if the official temperature isn’t the highest on record. Medical journals and crowd safety researchers have noted that sustained exposure in dense crowds without proper ventilation or hydration can lead to heat exhaustion quickly, regardless of ambient temperature.

Again, I appreciate your questions. It’s clear you’re not trying to be combative, but to understand the detailsand honestly, that kind of discourse is rare and welcome.

FoxyQueen · 51-55, F

@Madmonk The only things I can say are that the No Kings protest had over 12 million nationwide and were organized by communities.

It was 78° in DC this weekend, which really isn't heat stroke or exhaustion weather.

The parade was not that densely crowded by the pictures I have seen whereas the protests were, so ventilation would not have been an issue either.

In my OP, I did state that the 40 injured weren't due to violence. I do assume it was due to health reasons, however, 40 at an event that claims to have had only 250,000 people (though numbers are now said to be in the 8,600 range) is still incredibly high.

I also acknowledge that the protest events, things like heat exhaustion or stroke and other medical issues were not reported, so I don't know if there were any or not. I would assume there were some because of the statistical ratio says there was.

It just struck me as odd that an event with so few in attendance had such a high injury rate given the environmental factors, versus the huge events and numbers that happened nationwide.

Madmonk · M

@FoxyQueen Thank you again for your thoughtful reply. I truly appreciate the respectful tone and honest engagement. You raise excellent points, and I’ll offer what I’ve found along with one theory worth considering.

While the MAGA parade was organized in advance, the structure of the event played a major role in the outcome. According to Time Magazine, the injuries were largely due to heat-related issues. The event took place during a D.C. heat advisory, with large crowds standing still for long periods on hot pavement and little access to shade or water. That kind of environment can become dangerous quickly, even if the temperature isn’t extreme.

In contrast, the “No Kings” protests were decentralized, happening across thousands of locations nationwide. As reported by The Daily Beast and analyst G. Elliott Morris, this meant smaller, mobile gatherings that were easier to manage locally. Many cities coordinated efforts, and the protests didn’t force people into tight, stationary clusters the way a centralized parade does.

One theory worth mentioning, though not proven, is that the demographics of the two crowds may have played a role. The MAGA base is generally older, and statistically, older Americans tend to have higher rates of obesity and underlying health conditions. Meanwhile, many of the “No Kings” protesters were younger and more mobile. While not a definitive explanation, this difference in baseline health and physical conditioning could partly explain why one event saw more medical incidents despite a smaller crowd.

In the end, both events were meaningful to those who attended. The differences in outcomes likely come down to crowd structure, event planning, and possibly the makeup of the people present. Thank you again for an honest conversation I think it’s the only way we make progress.

FoxyQueen · 51-55, F

@Madmonk I had not considered age as a factor, but that is very true too and that would certainly put a different perspective on heat, hydration, crowds, etc.

I agree with you on open, honest discourse as a way to make progress and I appreciate your engaging in that. I wish more were willing to do so.

Madmonk · M

@FoxyQueen be well sister

samueltyler2 · 80-89, M

@FoxyQueen in the No King event I attended, the average age seemed to me to be over 60! That was upsetting since it is the youth that will inherit what we leave to them and so they need to be involved.

MoveAlong · 70-79, M

@Madmonk Don't go messing up a good social media thread with facts. It spoils the fun.

FoxyQueen · 51-55, F

@samueltyler2 I think it depends on the local community. At ours, it was a good mix.

TheShanachie · 61-69, M

@samueltyler2 same here! Over 60 but ranging in age from 19 well into the 70s.

samueltyler2 · 80-89, M

@FoxyQueen I guess it depends on your expectations, and how you define good mix.