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You don't have to know, you're not at war and can't surrender. You're unaware. Carry on!

fanuc2013 · 51-55, F Best Comment
Make a deal with the Kurds to invade from the north, The Iraqis from the west. And the Afghans and Pakistanis from the east, the US providing air support. Tell them any territory they take they can keep.The Iran military would fold, they couldn't fight on so many fronts at once. Then the populace could get in a civilian gov't provided there is any country left. It could come out that the country of Iran could cease to exist, all pieced out between the neighbors.
GerOttman · 70-79, M
@fanuc2013 that's just good tactical thinking there. there's people in country would probably assist if they thought it might succeed.
Bumbles · 56-60, M
@fanuc2013 Sure, Trump and Hegseth could definitely pull this off. 😁
Gibbon · 70-79, M
I'm with Abbey
brucep · 70-79, M
Remember,no more wars if elected?
MasterLee · 56-60, M
@brucep so you think this is a war?
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@MasterLee Well it has got a bit fighty 🥺
Prison1203 · 61-69, M
Make it a parking lot or glass factory
GerOttman · 70-79, M
It would take a full scale invasion. Boots on the ground, significant casualties, combined arms, air/sea/land and special forces. Also need full cooperation and participation from both the neighboring gulf states and Israel. That in itself is an obvious deal breaker. The two week timeline is achievable but highly unlikely.

More probable is a continuation of statu quo and continued unrest in the region.
GerOttman · 70-79, M
@SunshineGirl to what end? I don't mind conversations but it helps to have a point I think.
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@GerOttman Costings (human, diplomatic, and financial) will ultimately determine whether your plan is successful or not.
GerOttman · 70-79, M
@SunshineGirl take Iran in two weeks
was the stated mission, correct? That's the plan, no consideration was asked or given to cost factors. That's your own unsolicited input. However correct it remains irrelevant to the question as posted. It's just a common kibitz...
By declaring victory for the 24th time.
The same military experts that had us in Afghan for 20 years?

After a trillion dollars.. replaced the taliban with the taliban..

Let the don cook
PDXNative1986 · 36-40, MVIP
I would hesitate severely to say that Iran won, I would just say it didn't completely lose and we didn't achieve total victory. Tehran has been weakened considerably by what has taken place.
Bumbles · 56-60, M
@PDXNative1986 Always a good thing…
PDXNative1986 · 36-40, MVIP
@Bumbles No more axis of resistance, the Strait is being slowly bypassed. This is A Weakened Tehran we're talking about whether or not Trump managed to force the strait back open.
Waveney · M
@IM5688 The irony is, if the JCPOA treaty had remained in place, none of this would be happening. None of it. [@PDXNative]
MasterLee · 56-60, M
Take out the infrastructure
gol979 · 46-50, M
@MasterLee thats called a war crime. Partisan statists are a nasty bunch
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@MasterLee Iran took out the infrastructure (the Strait of Hormuz). That's why Trump is so upset.
PDXNative1986 · 36-40, MVIP
But when viewed from a broader perspective, the outcome looks different. The almost three-year-long regional conflict that started with Hamas’s attack on Israel in October 2023 and culminated in Operation Epic Fury this spring has put the United States and its partners in a far stronger position in the Middle East and left Iran much weaker. Iran’s proxy network of militant groups is largely in ruins; Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, one of Iran’s key partners, is gone; Tehran has been mostly ignored by its supposed allies in Beijing and Moscow; and Iran’s conventional forces, and much of its defense and nuclear industrial base, have been decimated. Iran’s sole victory from the latest round of conflict has come from its ability to close the Strait of Hormuz and cause economic damage across the world. But closing the strait also harms Iran itself, and the impact of a closure is likely to weaken over time as countries seek alternative suppliers, substitutes for oil, and new shipping routes to avoid the strait.
Khenpal1 · M
@PDXNative1986 there a lot maybes here , the conflict has exposed fault lines in US trustworthiness and encouraged sanctioned nations to build alternative payment rails, potentially leading to a more fragmented, multipolar monetary system.
Softy1 · M
Kill them all?
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Gibbon · 70-79, M
Posting 3 days later. Now he's deciding to play economic chess. This is going to be a long game with no end unless something happens within the country to over throw the IRGC
Nimbus · M
@Gibbon At the moment there is little or no sign of the IRGC being ousted from Iran by it's inhabitants.
Rightly they are are terrified that by taking action they will still be defeated and all that will entail.
It seems Trump's aim now is too 'sit and wait' until Iran runs out of money totally, degrades and then will become an easier target.
Gibbon · 70-79, M
@Nimbus well it's going to get handed over to the next administration. if it's the wrong side the regime will be revived
Bumbles · 56-60, M
As in surrender? No, he cannot.
Lilnonames · F
have hunter biden buy all the coke
Richard65 · M
By firing Hegseth and then resigning to allow someone with intelligence to deal with it.
Gibbon · 70-79, M
@AbbeyRhode if only I would be screaming hell yes out my back door
Docdon23 · M
he can't--he has not even made it clear what his objective is...or how it could end...he said he wanted to stop Iran from producing nukes, but that would eventually require a treaty with verification--which is exactly the deal he tore up first term...the only way to absolutely guarantee no nukes there is to occupy the country with troops and inspectors--not likely
SW-User
By his constant yammering over their media. They're sure to commit suicide.
PDXNative1986 · 36-40, MVIP
https://www.foreignaffairs.com/iran/iran-didnt-win-war
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