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Ever question what you see on the news?

The Deep State decides it doesn't want Trump to run again so it cooks up some charge about Trump "failed"to turn over some personal letters and a few dinner napkins and a menu so they get a search warrant from a judge who was a client of Epstein and raid Trump's home. They pretty much leave with the few things they came for and from what we can gather little else but the entire raid is the build up to getting an indictment against Trump so he can not run again. However what this really shows is just how far down the road to tyranny the US has fallen. This kind of political violence happens in some failed state banana republic where laws are meant to be ignored or just fabricated on the spot. You know places like Ukraine that shut down its opposition or Cuba or Venezuela. The US is no longer the light on the hill. It has fallen. Can it be reinvigorated?
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SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@LegendofPeza Win what? We're not playing a game here, we are having a conversation.

Anything else?
@SumKindaMunster
For approximately 9 months you followed me around, childishly trying to disrupt my discussions with straw man arguments, irrelevant snark, and pointless propaganda.
Pretty accurately describes what you've been doing to me! A little projection on your part, perhaps??
LegendofPeza · 56-60, M
@ElwoodBlues It's pure projection. At one time , following any interaction I had with him , his ego would be so bruised that he had to immediately rush to old posts of mine to leave insults.

If you want to understand the reason for his puerile behaviour , go check out his story about ' How to win an argument on the internet.'

Spoiler Alert : Having the last word is considered a 'win' .

You'd swear it was the work of some mal-adjusted teenager desperately seeking validation on the internet , which I guess it is really , regardless of his age.
Moosepantspatty · 31-35, M
I dont usually comment on politics, but like, I have been there. The deep state, the great reset, anti-white racism, the depopulation theory, FBI racial statistics, the whole nine yards. I was an InfoWars watcher, and was wholly convinced that Obama was going to kill us all, guided of course by the mighty hand of Klaus Schwabb and the WEF. I was so convinced that I bought a lot of silver so Fed couldnt ruin me like they would the rest of America. I was in independent thinker, i didnt get my news from Alex Jones, or Fox News, I just heard theories, and I did my own "research", which often backed up those theories.


It took a long time for me to understand the nuances of what was happening, that I was involved in a cycle wherein I was not seeking truth, I was seeking validation, that my persecution was not imaginary. It wasnt until a friend of mine pressed, and pressed, and pressed, for literally more than a day of just talking on this one topic, "what is the deep state?", "okay, but who are they?", over and over, till I finally realized its a poor re-hash of the same old Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion bullshit. Whos the deep state? The shadow government. Okay, whos the shadow government? The Fed, the Banks, the Corporations all financing political races and controlling our lives through manipulation of our Great Nation. But who are these people in the Fed, in the Banks, in the Corporations? Well, guess who were told is the mastermind. You got it! The deep state is an antisemitic con, the great replacement is some 14:88 bullshit.

And it hurts to see so many people here who ive genuinely enjoyed being around for years, seem suddenly so filled with hate for their countrymen that simple acts are stages for explosive debate and ridicule. I hope you guys can see that, and remember, E Pluribus Unum.
TinyViolins · 31-35, M
@Moosepantspatty This was a powerful, honest confession. I'm glad you were able to free yourself from such rigid thinking and can approach information more judiciously and fairly. I hate to see how truly caustic and vitriolic people are turning towards each other
Moosepantspatty · 31-35, M
@TinyViolins its some shit man, going down that hole is painful and isolating, and the world laughing at you just pushes you towards those who are actively involved in those movements. Its a really scary place to be, emotionally.
TinyViolins · 31-35, M
@Moosepantspatty I get it, man. These web forums where everybody is backing you up can be an addicting trap to fall into. The real world looks at you and treats you like you're crazy when you bring up these extreme claims, so the only comfort you can find is with the same people who share these beliefs.

People are coalescing around narrower and narrower online communities because they want to believe so strongly that they're right
Carla · 61-69, F
You haven't a clue what they were after nor what they found.
Do you think he may have taken something that didnt beling to him?
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@Carla Actually they did and no handcuffs are not normal. Neither were the charges against him. Do try to keep up. Maybe look up executive privilege. You might be surprised at what you learn.
@hippyjoe1955
And there is evidence that the magistrate judge was also in Maxwell's little black book.
A supposition in a right-wing blog? You call that evidence??

The WSJ is now reporting that the FBI was tipped off that Trump was holding classified government documents illegally. Some are pointing to Mark Meadows as the tipster; personally I think it was some of Trump's Secret Service agents. If there was a tip like this, it might be mentioned in the probable cause portion of the search warrant they gave Trump. BTW, he's free to reveal the search warrant and has chosen not to. I wonder why??



UPDATE


Multiple sources are saying Trump had illegally absconded with documents relating to nuclear weapons and that he hadn't responded to subpoenas for those documents.

And what's most interesting is that Trump isn't denying he had the documents - he's just saying he thought negotiations were "going well."
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@ElwoodBlues You remain as clueless as ever. In your perfect little world the instant someone becomes an agent of the state that individual becomes flawless even surpassing God in perfection and honesty. Butter won't melt in their mouth and there is never any shadow of dishonesty or malfeasance ever present for ever more. All political biases and prejudices have disappeared and they become pure as the driven snow. Yes indeed there is no one good but a government employee. Too funny. Run along son your ignorance is beyond a joke.
SatanBurger · 36-40, FVIP
So you're saying Trump is a 2 year old and didn't know that stealing records to keep for personal sake was a federal offense? I'm sure that when Trump took oath they went over that with him right? It's typical of narcissists to assume no responsibility.
SatanBurger · 36-40, FVIP
@hippyjoe1955
They told him he could keep the rest if he kept them under lock and key.

Since when? It's a federal LAW that you can't keep ANY personal records. I highly doubt they said it, it's more like one of his advisors said it and not the federal govt.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@SatanBurger

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/08/report-trump-received-subpoena-spring-documents-fbi-raid-cooperated-federal-agents/
SatanBurger · 36-40, FVIP
@hippyjoe1955 I looked up other news regarding that and they retrieved 15 boxes of classified documents, Trump being cooperative with the FBI doesn't mean he wasn't hiding those or otherwise they wouldn't find those 15 boxes now would they?
TexChik · F
Always question what you see on the news
a client of Epstein and Trump's . that is funny
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The US is no longer the light on the hill. It has fallen. Can it be reinvigorated?
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yes as soon as most of these go to jail and trump also. grin
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
Who's in the Deep State?

so they get a search warrant from a judge who was a client of Epstein and raid Trump's home.

A judge that Trump appointed, don't forget that part. 😆
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@hippyjoe1955
Trump didn't appoint him.

https://www.medadmbjmc.in/judge-bruce-reinhart-was-appointed-by-who-the-florida-man-who-ordered-the-fbi-to-raid-the-trump-residence/

Womp... womp... WOMP!!!

Anyway, you still didn't answer my questins about the Je... I mean, the "Deep State."
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Jungleman · M
it's transparent to me, and i think the world can clearly see what the deep state are doing, corruption to the max.
Majorsite · 61-69, M
Now a days, I question everything I see on the so called news networks !
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@Majorsite I very rarely listen to Dan but if memory serves me Dan said the Deep State just declared war or words to that effect. (going by headlines only)
Majorsite · 61-69, M
@hippyjoe1955 Yes, The fake news is not even characterizing the Trump raid, As a raid !
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
smileylovesgaming · 31-35, F
Trying to understand the news hurts my brain.
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SkeetSkeet · 100+, F
Were you born in America?

 
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