Do right-wingers actually think Hitler and the Nazis were socialists because “socialist” is in the name?

They also have to conveniently forget that neo Nazis are amongst their ranks lol as seen with that unite the right rally


They will also claim how the Democrats started the KKK. Sure, they started it, when that party was socially conservative at that time. They conveniently ignore party realignment that now sees the Republican party being the home of disaffected white racist groups.

They always project their own bigotry, etc onto others

It's unbelievable how often you hear that from Trumpturds on here , who otherwise think they are actually quite clued up politically. Even when you explain it to them it makes no difference.

On another note, I'm a real pedant for classical political definitions. I know I'm sarcastic AF and I take the piss out of people but at heart, I'm very literal. If right-wingers have good-faith arguments and know what they are talking about then I respect that, even if the results of their policies are awful.

On this site, you literally get blocked or downvoted before you can even get to that point.

There are different types of socialism. You have utopian socialism. You have libertarian socialism (anarchism). You have international authoritarian socialism (communism). You have international democratic socialism (socialdemocracy). And you have national socialism.

National socialism did not happen only in Nazi Germany. You have it also in today's China, and it existed in Egypt under Nasser, in Libya under Gaddafi or in Argentina under Peron. All of them with different characteristics according to the culture of every nation. It is national, after all.

Conservatives don't care about truth. They pretend the Nazis were left-wing because society hates them. If society liked the Nazis, then Conservatives would admit they were right-wing.

Probably.

The thing here is that socialism is an ideal far from practice for any large group, merely a seasoning in the spice rack of governance. As far as that is concerned you're not going to find a uniform socialist group. Any percentage or criteria that isn't full blooded embodiment would be arbitrary. Who's a socialist, the 75% alignment? The one who is more socialist than anything else? The Nazis did use socialism. It's not in question, you just decide where the line is. I'd be hesitant to consider it a superior position unless you do only accept the fullblood to be a socialist, otherwise you're both on shaky ground. Even that's a little hard to claim due to the marxists and the original socialists being in conflict.

Antifa is what they say, not purely though. The rest of the conclusion does not follow because they are in opposition with pacifists for example and, while they may call them fascist sympathizers or some such, I doubt even they would or could stretch an identity of fascist out of a flowerchild.

Brilliant. The downvote showed this hit home!

@Reason10 says [quote] MOdern day liberalism IS NAZISM. Period. [/quote] DUUUDE!!! You don't know much about Nazis, do you? Allow me to educate you just a tiny tiny bit!!

In Germany in the 1930s,
the Nazis bitterly opposed the Social Democrats;
the Nazis bitterly opposed the Socialists;
the Nazis bitterly opposed the Trade Unionists;
and the Nazis bitterly opposed the Communists.

When I say "bitterly opposed" it means the Nazis sent brownshirt thugs to disrupt rallies and fight in the streets against their political opponents. The Nazis were a reactionary party reacting against the left wing in Germany at the time. The Nazis built their platform on racism, nationalism, and fear of the foreign.

Socialism is fascism, the actions prove that to be factual.

2 classes 🙄

Why do you call them "right wingers"?

Because they claim that's what they are?

Yes, many do still believe that. And the historical fact that just as many socialists were imprisoned along with the Communists (because the Nazis [b]hated[/b] leftists) makes no dent in that misconception.

National Socialism. Hitler, Nazis, modern day Liberals, Democrats.

ALL the same.

Not the educated ones, but it's still a good attack point for them because so many people are too ignorant to realize the truth.

No. They're antipolitics.
It's preventing progress whenever tvey sew confusion

Will Hitler ever die in some people's minds? 🥺

I can't imagine right wingers would actually believe that the [b]Democratic People's Republic of Korea[/b] (North Korea) is actually democratic or a republic

So I don't know why they try pulling that sh-t with the Nazi party (National Socialist German Workers' Party), if they're really that dumb or think everyone else dumb enough to fall for their scam

[quote] ... The Nazi Party emerged from the extremist German nationalist, racist and populist Freikorps paramilitary culture, which fought against the communist uprisings in post–World War I Germany. The party was created to draw workers away from communism and into völkisch nationalism. Initially, Nazi political strategy focused on anti–big business, anti-bourgeois, and anti-capitalist rhetoric. This was later downplayed to gain the support of business leaders, and in the 1930s the party's main focus shifted to antisemitic and anti-Marxist themes ....[/quote]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Party

Oh, that's right, Wikipedia is socialist propaganda rag (even though it can be edited by QAnon types too) ... my bad ...


[b]NAMES[/b] don't mean much, what's actually going on day to day behind the name is what is actually measurable to see if it actually matches or [b]contradicts[/b] the name. It's no different than a bad employer promising you in a job interview that you will never work more than 40 hours a week and then you have to work 70 hours a week every week for years. It's a lie to lure onboard.

If I just [b]tell[/b] you that this is a pic of an orange, that does not make it so

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