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Have you ever tried to learn computer programing?????? [I Want to Be Happy And Make Others Be Happy]

I gave it a shot a few months ago.
It's so hard.
The reason it is hard is because you have to learn a bunch of stuff that won't be usful til later on.
UGGGG!!!!
I need to use it as I learn.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
IBM 1024 binary punch card 1976 math class
RPG II 1979
RPG III 1983
Turbo pascal apple IIe 1984
6502 Merlin assembler Apple 1984 IIe
Apple Basic Apple IIe 1984
dBase II apple IIe 1985
Cobol II HP 3000 1985
Cobol III Wang 2200 1986
DOS 3.0 Batch IBM AT clone 1987
GWBasic IBM AT clone 1987
Turbo Pascal III IBM AT clone 1987
Turbo ASM 1987
Borland pascal 486 1990
dBase IV 486 1990
Microsoft Access for windows III 486 1990
Borland pascal for Windows III 486
HTML 586 & FreeBSD 1996
BASH/TASH FreeBSD 1996
mySQL FreeBSD 1996
PHP FreeBSD 1996
Javascripting 1996 FreeBSD
Perl 1996 FreeBSD

Hmmmmm not certain if I quite caught on! 🤔😆😈
Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
@DeWayfarer Ha ha ha ha!!!!
Can you say over achiever. LOL
CrazyMusicLover · 31-35
We had to in high school. The only subject I almost failed. Then we had node visual programming in college. It was much better but I gave priority to things I was naturally better at and therefore could reach better results in the short time I had for completing a project in one semester.
I'm still trying visual programming with lots of pre-coded stuff now but I have to relearn trigonometry again. I forgot even the most basic things.
Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
@CrazyMusicLover Trig???? I failed basic math. LOL
CrazyMusicLover · 31-35
@Dainbramadge Well, all I managed so far was getting a spiral by arranging nodes to get r = aeθ cot b. 😅 And I'm not even sure if it worked, because when I look at that code now I can't see that exactly happening. 🤔 But the spiral is there. 😂

Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
@CrazyMusicLover I have used nodes in other programs for different type stuff but I HATE NODES. LOL
Interesting tho.
assemblingaknob · 26-30, F
Ikr. I told my professor I can't learn a very strange computer language, for some statistics I need to do, without a programming background as it's not my subject so I'd rather hire a statistician to do it for me. He was like "BOGUS!!! YOU CAN DO ANYTHING" blah blah blah and I was like 😑 I have enough on my plate.
assemblingaknob · 26-30, F
@Dainbramadge and guess what. We need R for statistics. 😶
Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
@assemblingaknob Ha ha ha ha!!!!!!!! WHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL
assemblingaknob · 26-30, F
@Dainbramadge ikr. 😐
Lanyx · 41-45, M
I am proficient in Python.
I also learned and programmed in Ruby, PHP, JavaScript and HTML.
Prior to that, I programmed for money in C and assembler.
Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
@Lanyx Is that a different editor? I use Pycharm for a Python editor.
Lanyx · 41-45, M
@Dainbramadge No. PyGame is a "plug-in" into Python. Effectively, it is a library.
Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
@Lanyx I shall look into this.
I did find a program that isn't programing called Unreal. It's instant gratification type stuff.
Dlrannie · 31-35, F
Nope - it was hard enough to find the switch to turn the thing on 😂😂
Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
@Dlrannie Ha ha ha ha!!!!!!!!!!
Northwest · M
Are you trying to learn software development, or taking a limited courses, to learn about something specific, so you can get a specific job?
Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
@Northwest API??? Not familiar.
Northwest · M
@Dainbramadge That's the thin you're learning Python for and will come "three months later."

API = Application Program Interface. The Programming Interface.

The Application in this case is Blender. It has a bunch of functionality, and programming interface is the gateway that allows a program to tell Blender to do things.

Let's say you have a bunch of workers inside a factory. Some make spoons, some make forks, some make plates. They're behind a gate, and the only way to ask them to make their stuff, is through Python, because this the only language they know.

So, after you learn Python, you can start learning the specific Blender functions you can request through Python.
Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
@Northwest Hey that actually made a lot of sense. Thanks.
I got some cool stuff for the plate guy to do. LOL
Mordi · 31-35, M
I don't understand the reasoning here. Usually when learning something it won't be useful until later.
Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
@Mordi No no. Very helpful.
I do have an issue with instant gratification. LOL
Mordi · 31-35, M
A lot of people say python is easy to learn. Which is kinda true. It's easy to learn and use. But I think the ease of it makes understanding programming concepts as a complete beginner harder. Also, I don't like the graphics modules on python.

But python is great. 🤷‍♂️
Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
@Mordi Thanks for your input. :-)
SW-User
I tried, I gave up
Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
@SW-User I keep telling myself I am just taking a break from it. LOL
SW-User
@Dainbramadge I said the same, then I thought about it and realised I was going nowhere fast with it all
Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
@SW-User LOL. To know ones self??? LOL.
SW-User
Are you doing Udemy or something like that?


Even if I was an adult, I would probably choose to learn from one of those kid programming solutions. Playgrounds is really cool on Apple.
Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
@SW-User It's Python. Supposed to be the easiest. Man I would hate to see hard. LOL
SW-User
@Dainbramadge Have you considered the Head First books? There's a programming book and a python programming book.

I really think programming needs context and those books do a good job of providing context.
Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
@SW-User Yes. Context is what I thrive on.
wessexman · 51-55, M
If you can understand the concept behind the language, the ideas that are laid out in code, it becomes a sort of poetry and can be beautiful. Can still be really hard to learn though
Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
@wessexman SOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooo Hard.
ABCDEF7 · M
Which language you tried to learn, and what is your purpose.
Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
@ABCDEF7 SSSSSSSSSSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooo Hard. LOL
ABCDEF7 · M
@Dainbramadge Well they say it's easy to learn in the younger age when the brain is developing. That's why they have started teaching in primary & middle schools.
Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
@ABCDEF7 My boy is 11 and he is a lean mean learning machine. LOL
SubstantialKick · 36-40, M
Yeah, it's what I'm studying in school.
Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
@SubstantialKick Oython???
I took like five tutorials on it and they weren't giving examples I could relate to.
SubstantialKick · 36-40, M
@Dainbramadge So far I've learned HTML, CSS, JavaScript, C++, and basic Windows stuff.
Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
@SubstantialKick Of course that was meant to say Python. LOL
Nobody00 · F
Yes. Did not work
Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
@Nobody00 I hope to get back at it in time. Maybe it will make more sense later. IDK.
Nobody00 · F
In my teens i wanted to be a hacker@Dainbramadge gave it a try Didn’t even get Visual Basic forget C ++ Sigh Idk why i did not get it. Good luck
Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
@Nobody00 Thank you. Things are different now with all the people teaching it for free on line. I just need to find the right teacher.
Thevy29 · 41-45, M
Yep. I tried, didn't complete.
Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
@Thevy29 Freaking hard isn't it.
They want you to learn a bunch of hypothetical stuff that makes no sense and tell you it will later on. 3 MONTHS later. WTH?????
Casheyane · 31-35, F
Yup. Not fun.
Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
@Casheyane I would love to know it. I just am having trouble with learning stuff I can't use for three months. THREE MONTHS. LOL
Learning that, or anything else,is often best done w/exercises, not listening to abstract double-talk
Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
@ImperialAerosolKidFromEP YES!!!!!!! That is exactly where I am coming from.
I had a high school psychology book back when. I would read it because it was interesting to me. I helped my wife take her collage psychology exam just from general knowledge and I got a 94%. Point being is I respond very well when I have the right material.
Someone earlier said I just needed to keep looking for a teacher I can relate to.
I may be getting back at it soon because a friend got me a book on programing Python for kids. LOL. Sounds silly but i think that may work.
DDonde · 31-35, M
Yeah I have a degree in it
Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
@DDonde Sweet. Did you learn it conventionally or did you do an online deal??
DDonde · 31-35, M
@Dainbramadge conventionally
Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
@DDonde Yeah I am trying to find books and tutorials online to help me out. Gotta find the stuff that gives you enough information but in a way that I can absorb it.
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Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
@ChemDawg I didn't get to making graphics yet. I did however make a text based game using Def statements. But it all went to hell after that. LOL
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Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
@ChemDawg HA ha ha ha. I have no patients. LOL
Instant gratification. :-)

 
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