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Foreign Policy Crystal Ball

With all this talk about taking Greenland and the Panama Canal, the next US administration seems to feel it is fine for strong countries to take what they want from weaker countries. No doubt this would apply to Russia and China, too. Ukraine? Taiwan? I think I smell a deal, if our next President can manage it.
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JohnnySpot · 56-60, M
Vicious rumors, he's not Taking Greenland and we didn't build the canal for the Chinese to control.
The bigger issue that people don't know about is that China is flooding our country with fentanyl through Mexico and Canada.
I know it sounds like a conspiracy theory but that is one of the bigger issues going on.
JohnnySpot · 56-60, M
@Poppies He didn't really mean that we are taking over Greenland.
He's not perfect, people are critical of any little mistake made. It was a long process messing things up to this point it can't be fixed instantly without making some adjustments to the plans.
He's not a crazy person that's going to do something ridiculous. He's not out to make more money for his rich friends. Compare the stuff he says and does to those of the recent past.
Consider the source of those against him, they are far more corrupt than the current administration and they would have done nothing to make the country safer or downsize the government. I hope the D.O.G.E. makes it to my local neighborhood.
Heartlander · 80-89, M
@Poppies

he has said that we're getting Greenland one way or the other

I think that's New York slang for "we all know that eventually you will surrender to my convincing charm" :)

For a glimpse of that convincing charm in practice, Compare Trump of January-2021 to Trump of January-2025.
@JohnnySpot China couldn't have been the reason you took other countries in the nineteenth century. Or the twentieth.
Gibbon · 70-79, M
Oh he's certainly working up something but with Trump you can never be certain what it is. He is playing his own hand of cards and no one knows what he is holding. Never take what he says literally. He's not what the left make him out to be.
Richard65 · M
@Gibbon the problem is what he says publicly has to be taken seriously. You can't say he's not to be taken literally. He's the president of the USA! He said on TV that he couldn't rule out using force to take Greenland and the Panama Canal. He literally made that statement, so Denmark, Greenland and Panama HAVE to take him literally, or nobody can believe anything the man says. You can't communicate with world leaders like that. It's incredibly dangerous. He's already making his new administration look deranged. He's literally threatening to take Greenland by force. Your excuse here is to effectively admit that he lies in public and nothing he says can be believed because he's playing his own cards. That's literally what you're saying. It's nothing whatsoever to do with how the left view him. That's just deflection. You're admitting Trump lies and can't be believed, irrelevant of his motives for lying.
Gibbon · 70-79, M
@Richard65 Okay run with that. We'll see you on the other side.
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@Gibbon But sooner or later he is going to have to stop playing solitaire by himself and join the adults at the big poker table.
US imperialism is alive and well, both parties in Washington and all the voters accept the "America First" mindset, their "Manifest Destiny," to control and use the entire world and all the countries.
It's not something that the population chooses to admit, meddle in or change. They're too conservative to go there.
Tяump seems to hate NATO almost as much as Putin. The good news is that Congress added a provision to a 2023 Defense Authorization Bill that prevents any president from unilaterally withdrawing from NATO; withdrawal now requires an act of Congress.

See https://thehill.com/homenews/4360407-congress-approves-bill-barring-president-withdrawing-nato/
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KiwiBird · 36-40, F
A terrifying extrapolation
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
Perhaps it's another distraction tactic to stop people thinking about other wild promises made during the election campaign. Day 1 will certainly be busy.
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
Trump is a wanna-be Putin, etc. Interesting thing will be if he goes ahead with trying to taker Greenland from Denmark -- is Denmark a NATO member? Would NATO stand up against US military intervention in Greenland.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
Taking Greenland/Panama/Canada is to cover the soon to be announced American withdrawal from Ukraine. Kind of like Reagan attacking Grenada to cover the loss of the barracks in Lebanon.
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ArishMell · 70-79, M
@hippyjoe1955 Nor have you any knowledge about them:

- Her Majesty kept her political views very private; but anyway throughout her reign the USA was not waffling about wanting to annexe Canada or part of Panama. Nor Greenland until 2016.

- Her children were NOT "inbred"; and nor are her grandchildren. She and her husband had totally different ancestries even by country (hers partly German, his Greek). Anyway, incest is illegal in the United Kingdom.

- King Charles knows considerably more about the world than you sneeringly imply.

If you are going to criticise other countries' constitutional systems at least be civilised about it, and use facts not ignorance.


(Donald Trump talked about wanting Greenland back in 2016, without explaining why. This seemed to puzzle many people, including me until I studied an atlas and thought about Trump's election- campaigning dogma. I don't recollect him mentioning Canada or Panama though, in his first term.

The Queen was still alive in 2016 when Trump came to the UK on a State Visit. I had the impression he invited himself, and then managed to insult his hosts by suggesting the USA should take over Britain's National Health Service. Not by copying its principles to create an American equivalent, against Republican Party ideology, but to use it as an overseas commercial asset.

The Queen is thought to have been unimpressed by Trump but was discreet and polite enough to keep her feelings to herself. The Monarch's relationship with foreign leaders is as Heads of State; leaving the political dealings to the Government and Diplomatic Service.)
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@ArishMell Yeah you can keep your inbreds to yourself. I have no use for them. I certainly don't want Camilla's sanitary pad delivering the drone from the throne when the Canadian parliament comes back into session. In fact I don't want the Canadian parliament to ever meet again. It is dangerous to Canadian lives and values. Kind of like king upChuck that way.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
I definitely smell something.
HobNoblin · 36-40, M
The idea was to buy Greenland.
HobNoblin · 36-40, M
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
@HobNoblin If you have to ask "So?" then there's no hope in trying to explain to you.
HobNoblin · 36-40, M
@ChipmunkErnie Make America great again! Yeeeeeee hawww. We're goin to Greenland!
nudistsueaz · 61-69, F
Not the case if you are buying something.
ElRengo · 70-79, M
Sadly, birds of a feather flock together
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
We would buy the canal , not “take it”.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@AthrillatheHunt Yeah, no. Trump has made it very clear he wants to take it. He just wants to grab Panama by the canal.
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
@LordShadowfire “they LET you grab Panama by the canal. “ hahaha
AllycatAD · 26-30
Russia, China, I seriously doubt it, it would be a war with the outcome more embarrassing than Nam
Poppies · 61-69, F
@AllycatAD The speculation was not that Trump would want to take Russia or China, but that he might go along with Russia taking Ukraine and China taking Taiwan for their national security as long as the US got to do the same kind of thing .
AllycatAD · 26-30
@Poppies I see now where I misunderstood, sorry.
MasterLee · 56-60, M
I am enjoying the liberals reacting to nothing as if it is Armageddon

 
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