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Clarification please, Ms Harris

Kamala Harris should clarify, and quickly, whether given the chance she would force Americans who object on religious or conscience grounds to participate in abortion,” said Grazie Pozo Christie, senior fellow at the Catholic Association. Sadly, it would not be the first time Harris has used her political power to trample the rights of religious Americans

Valerie Richardson, The Washington Times, October 23, 2024



Forced abortion participation sounds Ohhh so China-like to me. 🙁
You can practice your religion all you want. But if your religion makes you incapable of providing medical care and actively puts others in harm's way you have no business running a hospital.

You have the right to be religious but you don't have the right to imposed your beliefs on people who happen to walk into your business and put their lives in danger because of it.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@SSDecontrol
Now why don't you tell us what they were

Tell you what? Be clear!
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First off the only people forcing anything on anyone is social conservatives.


Ant it is really really simple. You can run a church or a business. Pick one. A hospital last I checked is not a church. And last I checked hospitals didn't have the right to force their beliefs on people and withhold care.
SSDecontrol · 56-60, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow

Thinkerbell 41-45, F

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justanothername · 51-55, M
Irishmolly you sound like a candidate for project2025.
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irishmolly72 · 56-60, F
@justanothername There are worse plans.
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As someone who claims in their username to be Irish you should see how well those religious based abortion bans in Ireland worked out.


https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/woman-died-ireland-abortion-ban-warning-americans-roe-v-wade-rcna35431
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow that's the point - they rejected the results over and over. You may not take reality into account, they're too conservative to allow that.
Capitalism forces everyone to work and kill the ecosystem in private sector jobs. Each job is pretty much commanded and not democratically done. Americans refuse to be involved in that- meaning it's invisible or you will be sorry.
HobNoblin · 36-40, M
@Roundandroundwego Real capitalism has never been tried.
irishmolly72 · 56-60, F
@Roundandroundwego ok comrade.
HobNoblin · 36-40, M
@irishmolly72 I said capitalism. Did you break your eye glasses 10 years ago and haven't been able to replace them due to shortages?
onewithshoes · 22-25, F
Too many of the arguments being made here assume ridiculous false dilemmas. Many, if not most abortions occur in specialised clinics that do virtually nothing else, and one would think this would leave plenty of room for other medical facilities where abortions are not performed, just are there are hospitals which, for one reason or another, do not provide open heart surgery.
@onewithshoes I mean sure. But the cases that are life and death will be in hospitals and it will be those cases where the bans rack up a body count.
onewithshoes · 22-25, F
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow Which may mean that a few small rural hospitals will not be able to allow religious exemptions for staff, but I would still think that large urban institutions would be able to make such accommodations, just as they are, by their size and resources, better able to accommodate staff with physicals disabilities.
@onewithshoes Except we know from countries that already do have the bans that women are basically left to die. Either over someone imposing their religious beliefs over someone's life (killing 2 people based on their logic btw) or doctors are terrified to do anything and risk a murder charge.
HobNoblin · 36-40, M
I think that what is ment is paying for it with tax money or health insurance through work or something. They get really triggered by even that. Personally I don't know what to do to comfort the irrational. It's about like looking at a Trump rally and seeing Nazis.
RedBaron · M
@HobNoblin But your spelling is terrible.
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SSDecontrol · 56-60, M
Retroactive abortion for Pics!
ViciDraco · 36-40, M
How would someone to be forced to participate in abortion? Because they work in health care?

Should we also be protecting religion-based vegetarian workers who decide to get jobs in meat packing plants as well? Can't fire that person for not doing their job because they have firm religious beliefs!

I'm sorry, but if your religion doesn't allow you to perform the job then you should find another job. What would you call forcing an employer to keep someone who is unable to fulfill their job responsibilities employed?
irishmolly72 · 56-60, F
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow At least we can rest assured that illegal immigrant transgeners can get all their operations for free under Harris. It's only a drop in the bucket of our $36 Trillion debt. 🤣
@irishmolly72 Got to get in your required bigotry of the day.

The Funny thing is the same kinds of people you associate with would have deported you for being a Paddy not that long ago.
irishmolly72 · 56-60, F
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow How do you know who I associate with?
Huh? Sounds like your standard tripe.
@irishmolly72 Then I hope you voted for the lesser evil.
irishmolly72 · 56-60, F
@BohemianBabe Yes, the libertarian candidate.
@irishmolly72 I used to say the third parties don't count. Now I can say they don't count AND they're not the lesser evil.
Tracos · 51-55, M
That's sounds like a twist of the truth to me
AbbySvenz · F
You have that backwards.
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irishmolly72 · 56-60, F
@RedBaron I rest my case.
RedBaron · M
@irishmolly72 You have no case.
irishmolly72 · 56-60, F
@RedBaron If you read the article you wouldn't be saying that.
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kodiac · 22-25, M
@HobNoblin his pfp says every child matters, seems kind of ironic for a pro abortion looney.
HobNoblin · 36-40, M
@kodiac pictures of a better tomarrow shills for marxisim. Lots of people are pro abortion myself included
SSDecontrol · 56-60, M
@HobNoblin 👎
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