Abolish the electoral college?

The Republican Party becoming more moderate to cultivate more voters is what should have happened after the last three elections (2018, 2020, 2022). By nominating Trump again they have shown that they’re not interested in that strategy. Instead they intend to cater to the interests of a dwindling pool of extremists and use anti-democratic tactics like making it more difficult for people to vote and allowing Republican state legislatures to overturn the will of the people to win elections. I’m not convinced that even if we could somehow effect a switch to electing the president by popular vote that the Republicans would be compelled to expand their coalition and try to compete fairly and democratically.

Libs can't win a fair election. Hence, they want to abolish the Electoral College and create a system where the blue states decide the president for the rest of the country. No thanks.

not sure what rock you've been sleeping under, but democrats have moved so left in recent decades, that people who were once considered moderates/independents, are now considered far right by the democrats...

The EC is absolutely brilliant in its creation, existence and effectiveness. The middle of the country, referred to as the "fly over states" by liberals, are represented adequately by the brilliance of the EC. The coastal liberals should not determine how the whole of the country lives. It's here to stay.

Too many ppl don't seem to understand the idea of a union of sovereign states. The only way this works is if the smaller states have some form of power within the structure. What reason would most states have to participate within a union of states if everything could be dictated by one or two states?

The work around on the Constitutional issue is the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact. Under it, participating states (and DC) agree to cast all their electoral votes for the candidate receiving the largest national popular vote. The compact is triggered when sufficient states (plus DC) have joined it to have a majority of the Electoral Vote. It currently has 17 states and DC, representing 39% of the Electoral College but 77% of the 270 electoral votes needed to elect the President.

A more equitable solution closer to the original intent of the framers of the Constitution, imho, is if every state allotted its Electors in proportion to the popular vote in their states rather than on a winner-take-all basis. This would still make smaller, rural states relevant, forcing candidates and parties to campaign nationally rather than just a few swing states with a disparate amount of leverage for their size, and approximate the national popular vote.

The 3 different Parties was already in process when the Repugs took tRump as their "Dear Leader". The Tea Party loons were already in the process of splitting from the GOP, then they made a deal with tRump to keep the Right united under his thumb. Should he lose yet again this time, I fully suspect the schism to happen for real this time and then the Establishment Republicans will have a lot of work to do rebuilding before they're ever Elected again, if ever and the Tea Party can yell and scream all they want, on their own.
The "Electoral College" is an ideology from a bygone era and should be abolished, screw the "Electors" (And the cheating the Republicans tried to use them for) and let the People have their voice! We live in a fascinating era of technology so why aren't we using Iris scans for everyone as an ID to vote?

Also slavery no longer exists (in America) so its entirely invalid just more beaurocracy to waste time money and effort.

Time for you to check yourself into rehab. No one could be that wasted 😵‍💫

Unfortunately, the EC is at the very core of the Constitution and changing means re-thinking the entire government. The main philosophy 250 years ago was United States - separate states with a united central government. Therefore, it is the states who decide who will represent them in the federal government, not the population as a whole. You don’t vote for president; you vote for electors who represent your state and make the decision for your state.

This is why I have a hard time with the scotus telling colorado they have to keep Trump on the ballot. States have the exclusive right to determine how their electors are chosen, and colorado decided their law did not allow for electors to vote for Trump. But the SCOTUS ruling throws all that under the bus because it allows the federal government to now dictate who the states can choose for electors.

The real problem is we have given the presidency too much power and importance.

Could someone pleaee explain how the college vote works and what is it

It would be seen as an attempt to strip some states of their power and might tempt them and others to break from the union.

It would be far more democratic.

And the Republican party would basically become irrelevant.

You are right it might not lead to a single party rule but in other countries with a similar system other parties would actually have a fairer shake.

I think the Democrats might actually move more left because their base would actually matter.

Getting rid of first past the post too would be far better.

not true those states only account for a total of 17% of the countty's total population
population 19.57 million (NYS) + 39,128,162 (California) = 58,698,162 ÷ 345,426,571 (us population total 2024)= .1699294928 of the us. Population. Thus thats a bs rationale.

Progress? Where? To what end? The complete collapse of society?

Well those two statements arent exclusive. While the Republicans may never hold power again, room emerges for a new non rural party to fill that void and take Cenerist ground from the Democrats. 😷

Get rid of the EC, then California and New York would call the shots.

Spot on something needs to change.

or we could just buy some land from Canada (somewhere in northern Canada will suffice...), stick all the marxists and people who wanna do away with EC there, and let them start their own country... 🤔

It would force the candidates pander to every state instead of the usual 6-8 they pander to now.

I got thrown out of the electoral college.

No, that wouldn't happen, because they're already far too moderate.

It would require a constitutional amendment, so it won’t happen.

We need electoral colleges at the state level as well.

And well said