WalksWith · 56-60, F
yup. And President Biden pledges to tax them for the unfair loop holes that let them pay less taxes than a blue collar worker. The silly part is, President Biden's opponent is for giving them even lower taxes, so the middle class and poor pay more, and when we are sucked dry, they want to go after social security and other programs that help the poor, to pay for the wealthy tax cuts.
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DailyFlash · 56-60, M
@Ynotisay John Steinbeck once said that socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.
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Ynotisay · M
@DailyFlash Never heard that line. An interesting take. And I think for some that's absolutely true. They protect the richest under the VERY mistaken idea that it might be them some day.
justanothername · 51-55, M
One vital point you missed. All those 5 richest men all started out like the rest of us but all 5 of those rich guys had an idea and followed that dream.
Jeff Bezos was working as an analyst on Wall Street before he drive across the US to set up Amazon which would turn him into a multi billionaire.
Bill Gates was a self taught computer coder who was also a good problem solver. Yes, his parents were rich but it was Bill gates idea to write software for the personal computer which was unheard of in the 70s when IBM ruled the world that built the colossal that because Microsoft.
Those are just two examples.
Jeff Bezos was working as an analyst on Wall Street before he drive across the US to set up Amazon which would turn him into a multi billionaire.
Bill Gates was a self taught computer coder who was also a good problem solver. Yes, his parents were rich but it was Bill gates idea to write software for the personal computer which was unheard of in the 70s when IBM ruled the world that built the colossal that because Microsoft.
Those are just two examples.
Ynotisay · M
@justanothername I stopped after "communist" dude. That's all I needed to see. I'm done.
DailyFlash · 56-60, M
@Ynotisay I'm puzzled why anyone thinks a billionaire deserves to pay less income tax than they do. And that the rules don't apply to them because they're mega rich.
Ynotisay · M
@DailyFlash Yep. It's completely nonsensical to me. Although there is a dynamic where people think that it could be them who's rich like that at some point. As usual, fantasy and belief drives people away from the truth. They fight for the right to be harmed. Makes no sense.
Northwest · M
Yes. They did.
And we allowed them Here's also some more news: their tax rate is lower than the average American. President Biden has a proposal: flat tax rate of 25% for people who exceed a certain income level.
Other than that? stop buying from Amazon, Tesla, etc.
And we allowed them Here's also some more news: their tax rate is lower than the average American. President Biden has a proposal: flat tax rate of 25% for people who exceed a certain income level.
Other than that? stop buying from Amazon, Tesla, etc.
easterniowegin · 51-55, M
It was intentional. But at least ppl felt safer letting amazon and walmart remain open while shutting down every little guy.
All over the flu. 🙄
All over the flu. 🙄
DailyFlash · 56-60, M
@zonavar68 actually it's in the same family of virus that cause the common cold.
SomeMichGuy · M
@easterniowegin I'm not scared, but I can read.
Re-read that headline--it doesn't say what you claimed. And the CDC statement doesn't say what you claim, either.
Re-read that headline--it doesn't say what you claimed. And the CDC statement doesn't say what you claim, either.
easterniowegin · 51-55, M
@SomeMichGuy
You work so hard to uphold the narrative and to be "correct" that you fail to understand the real outcome.
The virus is still the virus...how they treat it or categorize it is what has changed. But many of us treated it that way the entire time, because the fear that was ginned up was unnecessary.
You work so hard to uphold the narrative and to be "correct" that you fail to understand the real outcome.
The virus is still the virus...how they treat it or categorize it is what has changed. But many of us treated it that way the entire time, because the fear that was ginned up was unnecessary.
fddlpej · 61-69, M
How will those 5 people manage to pay their fair share of taxes?
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@fddlpej You are not wrong. But there are other factors making the issue more complex..The rich can take advantage of the plentiful money to garner real welath and remove it from the game for themselves..😷
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
And this is how "trickle down" economics works..😷
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@zonavar68 I agree with you regarding the outcomes. We disagree only about the amount of organisational planning. I see this as an expression of Darwinism, where enough of those to conform to the Rich model succeed and enough tof those who conform to the non rich model fail to tip the population balance over time. But there will come a second tipping point where there wont be enough Consumers left to support the consumer model..😷
zonavar68 · 56-60, M
@whowasthatmaskedman At some point the 'tapping' of wealth to the elite will slow down to the point that the model will fall over, but this might be why the elite is ultra-keen to see CBDC's implemented since then 'trickle up' economics in the form of fees/charges gets cemented into financial systems instead of being an adjunct that it is now.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@zonavar68 Exactly. Once the squeeze really hits the first part of the bottom line to get pressure from the market is the commissions and charges. I once went as a speaker to a local Kiwanis group on the principles of financial advice for retirement. A commone practice at the time was thr Trailing Commision , which flowed to the sales rep for the life of the policy, even if it went another thirty years. After I spoke, two of the older guys wanted to lyncj me. It turns out they had sold the members all retirement fund plans tracking the index, and cutting fees off the top. A common con I described in detail. Those commissions are less common now. And we have a thing called the Industry Super Fund which has no sale reps and therefore much lower fees..😷
thenormalkindofcrazy · 31-35, M
Yeah, pretty much going to be like this in any system (inb4 that wasn't real socialism!). The rich get richer, donate a bit to politicians on both sides, and skate on by. Oh sure, you'll have the odd politician tell us "We're gonna fix that!" but unless you were born yesterday, you'd realize that they can't afford a mansion or three on a congress member's salary.
Ynotisay · M
@thenormalkindofcrazy Good points about capitalism but I think it's a bit of false equivalency when it comes to the parties. The facts show Democrats seeking to raise to taxes on the wealthy. And that's a new thing.
MasterLee · 56-60, M
Liberalism at it's core
DailyFlash · 56-60, M
Like social security and Medicare?
MasterLee · 56-60, M
@DailyFlash no, since you pay into it. It isn't a freebie. Fundamentally there should be a better system that the government isn't involved with it at all.
gol979 · 41-45, M
Whatttt. You mean the scamdemic and lockdowns benefited the uber rich and decimated normal people? Well, tickle me pink.
Roundandroundwego · 61-69
Everyone knows a crisis brings wealth consolidation. Capitalism is clearly good for the rulership and for its society. Nobody thinks we can stop it, it's too heavily armed.
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DailyFlash · 56-60, M
@MarmeeMarch worldwide
zonavar68 · 56-60, M
One reason - Covid.
RedBaron · M
Instagram is not a credible news source.
MoonaNorth86 · 36-40, F
So what they are allowed to be rich it’s not there fault that poor people don’t know how to invest
MoonaNorth86 · 36-40, F
@DailyFlash no they don’t have to
DailyFlash · 56-60, M
@MoonaNorth86 that's the problem.
MoonaNorth86 · 36-40, F
@DailyFlash they pay enough to sponsorship to charities to anything that they can do to help others
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