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The UK government are having talks with all the ISPs and phone companies to force unfiltered access to everyone's data.

They want back doors in all OS.

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/uk-security-services-phones-spy-break-encryption-gchq-mi5-technical-advisory-board-bskyb-bt-cable-a7719341.html
Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
Stuff like this worries me.
Bad enough that Google; Amazon; Facebook and others, accumulate endless keystroke data on you. Enabling them to throw certain sales folk your way !
But if governments are asking THEM to do certain things.
Then......who's running security in our country ?
Why is it they can't do what they're asking Yahoo; twitter et al to do ?
Is terrorism seriously happening on such an industrial scale ?
Or is this about right wing extremism in the form of our OWN governments ?
suzie1960 · 61-69, F
@Picklebobble2: Is there any terrorism at all? Maybe it's all staged by the government to scare us into accepting big brother style surveilance "for our protection".
Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
@Gangstress: Cracking down on dissenters ?
Isn't this partly how we lost the experience project ?
It'll be interesting to see if there are more notifications from moderators coming up !!
WorldlyWoes · 36-40, M
@suzie1960: They consider a guy driving badly an act or terrorism these days. Any death is sad but, come on, it's not exactly an attack.
Gangstress · 41-45, F
They're already doing it surely
Gangstress · 41-45, F
@NocturnalNomad: yah I think you're wrong mate. They've asked for details in well random sites.
WorldlyWoes · 36-40, M
@Gangstress: Oh, this hasn't happened to me. Read the article. This has nothing to do with anybody asking for details. This is a truly Orwellian nightmare, a complete lack of privacy. Mass public surveillance. Back doors in all your devices so they can rummage about, leaving it vulnerable to hackers.
Gangstress · 41-45, F
@NocturnalNomad: just read it. Wtf
GlassDog · 41-45, M
It's already the case that I can't get access to some sites with my ISP unless I divulge my passport or driving license to them. Unfortunately I have neither. It's interesting what I can't get to. Even some straightforward non-adult news sites.
WorldlyWoes · 36-40, M
@GlassDog: I haven't experience this, what sites are you using? haha

I just use tor if a site is blocked. Although I think I'll be investing in a VPN before all this comes into force.
GlassDog · 41-45, M
@NocturnalNomad: Haha! Nothing dodgy. Just about 10% of standard Google searches tell me I can't get to a site. When I use a privacy network and go to the sites, there's nothing at all there that's adult. Just things like philosophy blogs or poetry.
bookerdana · M
Yeah,you dare not refuse or "the terrorists win" When public servants are the masters,somethings very wrong
WorldlyWoes · 36-40, M
@bookerdana: I hate it when people say, "I have nothing to hide." It isn't a valid argument. You're relinquishing your right to privacy.
bookerdana · M
I have had the same disagreement with people. I always ask,Would you like the postman to look at all your mail,or an operator to listen to your phone calls?"
SW-User
it's for our own security. I'd rather have my data out for no one to even notice than be bombed into bits, considering all communications occur via phone, it's totally understandable.
SW-User
@suzie1960: well I'm a brown muslim so I guess that's enough. But ya know I totally cooperate when they stop me at airports, when they don't treat me well, when I have to listen to hatred being spat in my face. But there are bad guys out there and wouldn't you wanna cooperate? I mean we're all on SW which does NOT promise us any encryption, if we're so paranoid why are we still here? This is an easy way to trace all of us, why are we still here if we don't want to accept this reality, instead of boycotting? All the apps that we download require us revealing our contact info, photos, location etc to the app people...why? It's ironic how everyone is complaining on SOCIAL MEDIA about no privacy....instead of actually taking a constructive step for our rights, if we even have those.
suzie1960 · 61-69, F
@SomeoneBetterthanBefore:
[quote]
“The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.”
― [b]George Orwell, Animal Farm[/b] [/quote]

So who are "the bad guys"? The terrorists the government keep insisting are out there or the government itself?
SW-User
@suzie1960: 😱 that reference.

 
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