Dobbs Decision

@missyann I have not watched an abortion in all three stages and being opposed to government restrictions is not the same thing as being in favor of abortion. You are correct that a human fetus is innocent of any wrongdoing. However, once they are born, that will surely change and being human does not grant them special rights which should keep a woman in bondage to an unwanted pregnancy. What business is it of yours what she chooses? Governments have enough concerns without invading into a private medical decision. I never stated I was proabortion. Part of your propaganda is labeling your opponents that way. Women are capable of making their own moral decisions without government intrusion. Abortion was around long before it was legalized and since the Dobbs decision maternal mortality rates have increased as have abortion rates. A woman should certainly see an ultrasound if she wants to, but any government mandates would not be helpful to her. Governments all over the world cause unnecessary distress to women facing unwanted pregnancies by imposing restrictions. What has Ireland accomplished with their ban? They have profited the airlines as women have fled to the United Kingdom for their abortions. The view you have seems to be that no woman should be allowed safe and legal access to medical abortion services. I consider that viewpoint morally indefensible when you consider how common the procedure is and how many poor women don't have the means to travel to escape the restrictions you want to have imposed on them. The cost of childbirth is only the beginning and poor women often don't have the means to pay for it. Adoption is an option, but no government should mandate it. Viewpoints on abortion vary among thoughtful people and I don't see how a minority viewpoint of wanting all abortion banned should be imposed on everyone. I am far more concerned about women being given the options available to them than with any moral decision they have being manipulated by outside forces such as politics.

@missyann You seem not to have noticed I named you in the long comment. Your 99.9 percent statistic is pure fiction as unreported rape is far too common for anyone to come up with such a statistic. Opposition to the death penalty comes from a feeling that the state does not have the right to decide who will live or die regardless of their conduct. In seeking to interfere with a private matter between a woman and her doctor, the anti-abortionists seem to want a police state where the government has tyranny over its citizens due to the voices of a minority of people. A democracy allows for the governments of a society to serve the people and not to rule over them. Allowing women to make their own moral decisions is not the same thing as sentencing the unborn to death as a woman has the option to continue her pregnancy. It's a complex moral decision which should be left up to the individual.

@Lukeman I go by the statistics we have if you think you have a more accurate one throw it out here. There are women who claim rape when they just get drunk and accidentally pregnant. I’m sure there are some women who don’t report it, but in today’s world that is a very low number.

You say the state doesn’t have a right to punish i and sentence those who have committed heinous, horrible crimes against humanity, especially children, but a woman has the right to sentence her unborn child the death penalty. These lives have done nothing to anyone. They are conceived by no fault of their own. Perhaps women should take responsibility for their actions. I don’t use rape and incest unless those are the only ones you would support getting abortions

I would prefer a national abortion ban but states are allowed to make the decision whether abortions are legal or not
I still believe murder should be against the law and women shouldn’t be the only ones allowed to commit this unless we make it legal for everyone to commit murder

You support the rights of women. I support the right of women and their unborn babies. No one should have the right to end an innocent life. When criminals who sentenced the death penalty it is because they are not innocent they are guilty

@pdockal so is conning people and stealing but doesn’t stop