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Republicans: please explain this.

You’ve spent 50 years claiming that people need to have the right to bear arms to protect against government tyranny.

Yet suddenly, in the wake of the ICE murders, when people carry guns to protect themselves against government tyranny, you suddenly side with the government.

Why?
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@GuiltyBiStander But you didn't mind when antifa put on full face masks and dressed in all black during their rioting and destruction?
GuiltyBiStander · 31-35, F
@NativePortlander1970

Save your canned propaganda comebacks for someone else honey.

Get it through your cracked bain that not everyone who disagrees with you is a lib or a Dem. Fifty nine percent of us live in the real world.
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AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
I live in Long Island and work in NYC and I’ve seen zero ICE activity . Only in the news in other places .
@AthrillatheHunt Yes, because Trump does not think he needs to teach NYC a lesson yet. But if Mamdani becomes too popular...
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
@AthrillatheHunt That's why you haven't seen ICE in Long Island or NYC.

Don't think for a moment that this is about immigration.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) announced they have arrested some of the worst of the worst
criminal illegal aliens, including child sex offenders, domestic abusers, and violent gang members, during
Operation Metro Surge in Minneapolis, Minnesota.

Abdulkadir Sharif Abdi, a criminal illegal alien from Somalia, was a former member of the Gangster Disciples
and is a known current member of Vice Lord Nation. He has also been convicted of fraud, receiving stolen
property, receiving a stolen vehicle, vehicle theft, and multiple probation violations.

Sahal Osman Shidane, a criminal illegal alien from Somalia, was convicted of criminal sexual conduct with a
minor aged 13-15.

Mukthar Mohamed Ali, a criminal illegal alien from Somalia, was convicted of assault, fraud, robbery, and
larceny.

Ahmed Mohamed Said, a criminal illegal alien from Somalia, was convicted of multiple crimes, including two
domestic violence convictions, three convictions of driving under the influence, assault, damaging property,
and violating probation.

Rudy Arendondo Jarillo, a criminal illegal alien from Mexico, convicted of felony smuggling aliens.

Alvaro Davila Alanis, a criminal illegal alien from Mexico, arrested for aggravated assault with a weapon.

Feisal Mohamed-Omar, a criminal illegal alien from Somalia, charged on two counts ofdomestic violence.

Oscar David Ayala-Ocampo, a criminal illegal alien from Mexico, was arrested for domestic violence.

Alberto Gallardo-Montiel, a criminal illegal alien from Mexico, convicted for driving under the influence.

Ismael Bonilla Avalos, a criminal illegal alien from Mexico, convicted of driving under the influence and
charged with domestic violence.

Ismael Higuera Chupin, a criminal illegal alien from Mexico, arrested for driving under the influence.

Carlos Mark Boquin-Alfaro, a criminal illegal alien from El Salvador, arrested for domestic violence.

Jose Eliborio Ocampo-Leon, a criminal illegal immigrant from Mexico, was previously convicted of criminal sexual
conduct with a victim under the age of 16.

Rudy Alexander Pineda-Aguilar, a criminal illegal immigrant from Guatemala, was previously convicted of criminal
sexual conduct.

Gerardo Sanchez-Acuna, a criminal illegal immigrant from Mexico, was previously convicted of drug trafficking.

Jeffrey Alexander Roman-Rabanales, a criminal illegal immigrant from Guatemala, was previously convicted of
assault, domestic assault and damage to property.

Salvador Salazar-Rivera, a criminal illegal immigrant from Mexico, was previously convicted of domestic assault
and inflicting corporal injury on a spouse.

Ayro Ariel Mimbrera-Fernandez, a criminal illegal immigrant from Mexico, had an outstanding federal arrest
warrant for amphetamine sale. Mimbrera-Fernandez was also previously convicted of theft and driving while
intoxicated.

Brian Anjain from the Marshall Islands has 24 criminal convictions, including assault causing bodily injury,
domestic abuse, public nudity, theft, interference with official acts, public intoxication and trespassing

Hien Quoc Thai of Vietnam was previously convicted of murder

Eddy Xol-Lares of Venezuela was convicted of conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute five kilograms or more of cocaine while aboard a vessel.
@sunsporter1649 Is this the same ICE that told us ICU nurse Alex Pretti was "a terrorist" and "an assassin" who "drew his gun," and "brandished" it?? Or was it some other ICE???

Was this the same ICE who told us that Renee Good "viciously ran over" agent Jonathan Ross?? Or was it some other ICE???

Sorry, dude ICE has told so many major lies in recent weeks that its credibility is shattered. ICE needs to earn back credibility, and they are not even trying.
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TexChik · F
Explain this

The left politicizes everything, and then are the biggest hypocrites when the narrative changes.



Ice murders? Are you under the impression that democrats do not have to obey the law?
ANY one who is legally carrying know that with that responsibility also come the burden of avoiding confrontations. It does not mean a deranged lib had the legal right to interfere with law enforcement during an arrest, physically get involved with officers, pushing them away and then brandishing a loaded weapon with several loaded mags. In that very short window LE could only access the threat level as dire and when he did not drop his weapon they dropped him. its that simple. If you dont threaten the police and pull out a gun next to them, they wont shoot you. Libs also do not have the right to use their vehicles to interfere with Law enforcement of push officers out of the way when they are going to be arrested. Stupid people get dead when trying to bully law enforcement.
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@TexChik How did Good endanger the officer? By telling him to go get lunch?

Pretti grabbed his gun? No he didn't. Once he was pepper sprayed, beaten to the ground and then held down by six agents, only then did one agent take his gun FROM THE HOLSTER. What, you think he charged at the officers with a gun, let himself be pepper sprayed and then put the gun back in the holster?

Orwell was right.
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KimberKimKim · 31-35, F
Why exactly do people need to protect themselves from ICE if they are simply peacefully protesting?
@NativePortlander1970 None of those videos, except one, which was only tangentially connected, had anything to do with either Good or Pretti. The rest were just about illegals in general.
TexChik · F
@Lostwithielle So only videos that have been edited to support the lies you want to tell are valid? How quaint.
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wildbill83 · 41-45, M
I'll just leave this here...

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@kodiac it’s not illegal to protest. It’s not illegal to carry a weapon (sadly) and you have the right to a trial if you did something wrong.

Alex Pretti’s rights were trampled by murderous, barely sentient thugs and he did not deserve to die.
@Lostwithielle [media=https://youtu.be/2exa0uQnrTY]
@NativePortlander1970 We're not talking about any earlier incidents.
Zaphod42 · 51-55, M
Because they’ve locked their identity to the tyrant… Admitting that that was wrong would be an inconceivable ego blow right now 🤷‍♂
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TexChik · F
@sunsporter1649 It's not, it just keeps their daddies, Tampon Tim and Keith Ellison, out of jail for a bit longer over the Somali Fraud
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And of course, someone who couldn’t come up with a reasonable answer to your perfectly logical question, opted to downvote. 🤭
MethDozer · M
Look at the history of America. Especially industrial revolution and robber baron ears up till the 1920s.

The right and conservatives promote the right to bear arms..... against the left and the prole/slave. When they ralk aboht fighting tyranny, they losing their peiviledge to commit their own tyranny against the working class through exploitation and financial coercing. Period/fullstop.

To then rhe 2nd is there not for the people, but fir the rich to use on the poor.
zonavar68 · 56-60, M
Gop plus trump plus heritage foundation all love inflicting pain on ordinary citizens because ordinary people are not rich enough to mean anything to the global elite Republican crowd
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@wildbill83 1. Except they weren't actively following ICE around. Good hadn't tried to actively run over anyone, despite Noem and Trump's "alternative" truth-telling (without video evidence).

2. You must have been carrying a torch for Laken Riley the way you MAGAts fetishise her murder for political gain. Never mind that the vast majority of rapes and murders in America are carried out by Americans themselves, and never mind that the attackers are almost always known to the victims. What you should be worried about, and which is why there are protests, is why are untrained government-sanctioned thugs murdering American citizens in broad daylight while trampling on their Constitutional rights?

3. And speaking of Constitutional Rights - no you didn't. The 2nd amendment is indeed for Americans defending against governments infringing on Constitutional Rights, exactly what ICE is doing to ordinary Americans. And you're cheering them on.
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@Gibbon I knew your cognitive dissonance would cause you to unravel🙂
Gibbon · 70-79, M
@Lostwithielle OMG you really are out of it
Gibbon · 70-79, M
@Lostwithielle
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Worldreject · 51-55, MNew
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They caused their own deaths, ICE is going after Ilhan Omar's Somali cronies that defrauded Minnesota and the US over billions of dollars stolen in childcare fraud during covid...
Rounding up illegals that commit murder, fraud, and other crimes is not tyranny.
@NativePortlander1970 go ahead. You’re still not saying why you’ve suddenly decided to side with the government after claiming we need to arm ourselves against government tyranny.

Keep deflecting.
houseonfire · 56-60, M
@NativePortlander1970 And this is what the left runs to the streets to protect. Paid protestors funded by people who hate America! Look at what an open border gave us. Let ICE clean it up!
@houseonfire I presented evidence from a former leftist journalist that walked away years ago, they rejected it, oh well 🤷

 
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