@BrandNewMan well, be done. Wait for more evidence because certainly there will be more recordings, more eyewitnesses, more videos, cell phone records will show how involved she was with the protests.

@trollslayer It doesnt matter her involvement, at all. Jeez you are dense.

@BrandNewMan i think that is relevant, because physics and logic and the videos we have clearly show she was not aiming her car at anyone. If they could substantiate that she had been threatening prior to the start of the video that could justify the use of deadly force

@KunsanVeteran These people don't understand most stuff at all. In the last 15 years, I've seen Ben Shapiro idolise the world of corporations that excist in the movie Blade Runner. I've heared some conservatives moan that RATM is suddenly too political. I've seen Trump post himself as a Sith lord. I've heared Peter Thiel utter the words Gramsci used: "The crisis consists precisely in the fact that the old is dying and the new cannot be born; in this interregnum a great variety of morbid symptoms appear.", while not understanding that he's funding the morbid symptoms. And my absolute favorite is Dinesh D'Souza talking about how we should all be a bit more like Captain Ahab. 🤷‍♂

But it's hard to understand criticism, if your entire movement lacks any selfcriticism. The best criticism of themselves that these people have is, when you talk or start thinking outside the orthodoxy, you are shunned and excommunicated.... you know, cult like behavior. There is 0 opportunity for self improvement.

@Kwek00 It was spectacular when it happened too, lol

@ElwoodBlues

ICE agent shoot and kill man who tried to run him over during operation ‘Midway Blitz’

Woman shot after allegedly attempting to hit ICE agents with car in Chicago



You detect a pattern yet of perps using vehicles to attempt to murder law enforcfement officers?

@ElwoodBlues more evidence will come out. But it is a narrow icy street. The ICE vehicles were stuck. It’s possible she drove the wrong way down a one way street to block them in. But why block in a vehicle that is already stuck? And how did she get her car perpendicular? Maybe I watch too many detective shows, but it doesn’t add up. Either her car was there blocking the street before ice got there, or she had to drive the wrong way down a one way street and then started a K turn. If she wanted to run a guy over, then she would speed down the street and aim at them. But she tried to turn around instead. And if she wanted to block them, what purpose would that serve? All the other protesters were on foot, but she was in a car? Don’t you think if she wanted to block their path she could have done so at the end of the street away from the ICE agents, gotten out of her vehicle and left it there, rather than drive the wrong way all the way down the street in front of them to initiate a turn? Makes no sense. I’m thinking this was a woman who accidentally drove the wrong way down a one way street, ICE harassed her, and when she tried to turn around, possibly having issues with the road conditions, ICE approached her aggressively, and “fight or flight” kicked in. I could be totally wrong, but there should be enough evidence to figure out what happened.

@sunsporter1649 sunstroke asks
The pattern is well known; it's official name is "officer created jepardy." DoJ has long been aware that certain psychopathic officers will briefly step into the path of a moving vehicle as an EXCUSE to kill.

That's why the DoJ's own use-of-force policy says that agents may not fire at a moving car that is threatening them unless “no other objectively reasonable means of defense appear to exist, which includes moving out of the path of the vehicle.”

We know your reading comprehension is challenged, so I'm gonna say that again: ...unless “no other objectively reasonable means of defense appear to exist, which includes moving out of the path of the vehicle.”

..unless “no other objectively reasonable means of defense appear to exist, which includes moving out of the path of the vehicle.”

Now what did Officer Jonathan Ross do immediately prior to pumping three rounds into the 37 year old mother? What did Ross do?

Officer Jonathan Ross stepped out of the path of the moving vehicle.

Gosh, that's the EXACT means of defense the DoJ cites!!

Officer Jonathan Ross utilized his means of defense, and then, as the vehicle was going past him, he fired three shots. First, he defended himself. Then he killed Renee Good.

Back to the topic of "officer created jepardy." Turns out that was exactly the subject of the 2nd source I cited for you. We know your reading comprehension is challenged, but go back and take a look at
https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-border-killings-20140227-story.html
The pattern of manufacturing an excuse to kill is well known to law enforcement leadership.

@MayorOfCrushtown That is not a valid justification for the murder.

@JimboSaturn having been on both sides, i realize that there are some officers who are way more trigger happy than others. and if I am on the wrong side of law, i usually dont know the background of the officer. i do what I can to avoid being shot. and so far, i have been lucky.

@MayorOfCrushtown I understand you point of trying not to be killed by police in the US (which is ridiculous), but that is the fault of the police, not you .

@trollslayer and made the wrong decision.

@Hatt94 instinct is not a conscious decision.

@trollslayer true. But if you know they are agents, and they tell you to stop. Why flee?

@SumKindaMunster does that justify murder? If so, you need to change the flag you fly above your house.

@saragoodtimes Name the case. If, as you claimed, the SCOTUS ruled on it, then you should have no trouble whatsoever naming the case.

@KunsanVeteran 2014 Plumhoff v Rickard and the same ruling in 2025 in Barnes v Felix

@saragoodtimes Plumhoff v Rickard: very different circumstances. In that case the offending driver had been stopped by police and refused to exit his vehicle and engaged in a high speed chase which endangered other drivers and officers, they attempted to stop him using non lethal methods and were unsuccessful. This was clearly resisting arrest and reckless endangerment.

Barnes v Felix: the moment-of-threat rule requires asking only whether an officer was “in danger at the moment of the threat that resulted in [his] use of deadly force.” 91 F. 4th 393, 397. Under the rule, events “leading up to the shooting” are “not relevant.” Ibid. Here, the “precise moment of threat” was the “two seconds” when Felix was clinging to a moving car. Id., at 397–398. Because Felix could then have reasonably believed his life in danger, the panel held, the shooting was lawful.

The circumstances of this case are quite different. There was no legal stop, there is no reason that the agents even legally approached the victim, she was not resisting arrest (she was fleeing), if the agent was actually in danger then he placed himself in danger, she attempted to avoid him and posed no threat to him. Any claim that he had limited immunity does not apply.

Trump’s and Noem’s “official statements” (they weren’t really official statements BTW) were packs of lies which misrepresent the video evidence.

This incident is materially different than each of the cases you cited. Indeed, this case may find it’s way to the SCOTUS if the agent tries to claim limited immunity.

@JimboSaturn yes she was. But really, that has no relevance.

@Carla No but we know that the MAGA types will say she was an undocumented immigrant without even checking the facts. Hell the president of the US said someone was run over without checking the facts.

@JimboSaturn Not very closely

@trollslayer Murder!There was no murder. That is saying that the ice agent knew her and had some kind of plan. If she had minded her own business and stayed at home taking care of her kids. None of this would have ever happened

@Slicker24 her wheels were pointed at the officer when she was backing up. She then put the car in forward and turned the tires right.

@boudinMan Agreed. I STILL see Democrat activists encouraging people to document and interfere with ICE.

@trollslayer …Sharpie in the hands of a wannabe dictator Dullard!

@trollslayer True, but it’s important to realize that Demented Donnie doesn’t realize how easily and how often he is manipulated by the likes of Miller, Putin, KJU, MBS, etc.

So he’s a “wannabe” and being a dictator is just one more item to add to that very, very, VERY long list of his failures…

If there were a Nobel Prize for “Failures” he’d be a shoo in!