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I’d like to see the medical record of the ICE agent who got “run over”

Because in the videos I have seen all ICE agents remain vertical the whole time.

Just more 100% lies from the trump administration. Completely lawless administration.
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how about if Kamala had kept the border closed as border czar and kept the illegals out maybe ICE wouldn't have to be in all these sanctuary cities doing their job
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sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
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@saragoodtimes Here's the 110 page ICE Firearms and Use of Force Handbook
https://imlive.s3.amazonaws.com/Federal%20Government/ID255426897069329047495080324203699905714/2.2.1_Attachment%2021%20-%20ICE%20Firearms%20and%20Use%20of%20Force%20Directive%20and%20Handbook.pdf

Page 12 includes the following:
4) Deadly force is not authorized solely to prevent the escape of a fleeing suspect. Deadly force against a fleeing subject is only authorized if there is probable cause to believe that the escape of the suspect would pose an imminent danger of death or serious bodily injury to the officer or another person.

Also, Department of Homeland Security (DHS) guidance—specifically, 2014 ICE/Border Patrol use-of-force policies—
“It should be recognized that a half-ounce (200-grain) bullet is unlikely to stop a 4,000-pound moving vehicle, and if the driver … is disabled by a bullet, the vehicle will become a totally unguided threat,” it says. “Obviously, shooting at a moving vehicle can pose a risk to bystanders including other agents.”
https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-border-killings-20140227-story.html

Note that the ICE guy didn't begin firing his weapon until he was out of the path of the vehicle. He shot a fleeing "suspect." That's in direct contravention of ICE rules, not to mention common sense.
JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
@saragoodtimes She was an American citizen.
JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
@saragoodtimes She did not dive at them, she was pulling out. ICE are thugs.
@ElwoodBlues under 4, to me someone aiming at you with a SUV poses a risk of imminent danger or death. she got what she deserved and and won't ever endanger another ICE officer again
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@ElwoodBlues What does it say about citizens obeying lawful orders of uniformed law enforcement?
JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
@saragoodtimes She clearly wasn't aiming at him. Her wheels were turned trying to pull out. She was not a terrorist. I'm very dissapointed in you. It's always the rich who lack soul.
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What does it say about citizens obeying lawful orders of uniformed law enforcement?
The orders to get out of there or the orders to stop? Masked guys shouting contradictory orders, which one should she listen to???

Regardless of contradictory ICE orders, deadly force is NOT authorized in that situation. We know your reading comprehension skills are minimal, but try reading these two sentences again:
4) Deadly force is not authorized solely to prevent the escape of a fleeing suspect. Deadly force against a fleeing subject is only authorized if there is probable cause to believe that the escape of the suspect would pose an imminent danger of death or serious bodily injury to the officer or another person.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@ElwoodBlues What does it say about citizens obeying lawful orders of uniformed law enforcement?
@sunsporter1649 asks
What does it say about citizens obeying lawful orders of uniformed law enforcement?
The orders to get out of there or the orders to stop? Masked guys shouting contradictory orders, which one should she listen to??

Regardless of contradictory ICE orders, deadly force is NOT authorized in that situation. We know your reading comprehension skills are minimal, but try reading these two sentences again:
4) Deadly force is not authorized solely to prevent the escape of a fleeing suspect. Deadly force against a fleeing subject is only authorized if there is probable cause to believe that the escape of the suspect would pose an imminent danger of death or serious bodily injury to the officer or another person.
@JimboSaturn wealth has nothing to do with this. she interfered where she shouldn't have been and paid the price. maybe shoot a few more and people won't gather and let these officers do their job
JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
@saragoodtimes So you now believe in your goverment murdering people?
JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
@JimboSaturn Like I said the US has lost it's soul.
@JimboSaturn I believe in gov't doing their job and keeping Americans safe from illegals. ask any angel mom or dad what they think of what happened. I stand with them
JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
@saragoodtimes Angel mom and dad? I don't know what that is. The facts are that illegals are the ones doing all the crime in the US, despite what your leader says. The rich are so scared of anyone.

You should believe in ethical and humanistic behaviour, not your corrupt government.
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@saragoodtimes you think your way I'll think mine and let's agree we see things differently
JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
@saragoodtimes Agreed, but I can't be friends with Nazis.
@JimboSaturn feel free to block me, no skin off my back
JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
@saragoodtimes Of course it's no skin off your back. When you are filled with hate, you don't care.
@saragoodtimes says
maybe shoot a few more and people won't gather and let these officers do their job

So your plan is to make citizens like Renee Nicole Good too fearful to exercise their Constitutional rights of peaceable assembly and free speech? There's a name for making citizens too fearful to exercise their Constitutional rights.

an angel mom and dad are those who have lost a child ...
As it happens, firearms have been the leading cause of death for US children and teens since 2020, representing 19% of all deaths for children 18 years and younger in 2021.


Do you have any evidence to say that the increase in child deaths during tRump's first term is in any way connected to immigration?
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@ElwoodBlues Like Ashley Babbit?