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beckyromero · 36-40, F
I think those of us left of center are reluctant to acknowledge to the political gamesmanship of then Sen. Republican Leader Mitch McConnell and his role inchanging in the courts, especially the Supreme Court - which has increasingly become more conservative than the public at large.

While Trump gets credit for nominating three new members of SCOTUS, it was McConnell who really was the mastermind who re-shaped the Court.

While liberals have successfully championed many of the rights you eluded to, they (and by
"they" I mean voters) have underestimated the ability of the courts to delay or overturn some of those rights. While they persevered in getting such rights to pass in the states or federally, they lost sight of the fact that a right not enshrined in the Constitution can be undone by the courts. And they failed in defending many of those rights.

Liberals have never been good at defeating conservative judicial nominees. It starts with the control of the Senate and the failure by elected Democrats to educate and also by voters to ignore the importance of the judiciary.
CedricH · 22-25, M
@beckyromero One more reason for the Democrats to become a party that’s purple enough to win back the Senate and hold it. It’s not an inconceivable feat.
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@CedricH

The recent battle for the Wisconsin Supreme Court seat, despite over $20 million spent by Elon Musk in a failed attempt to defeat Susan Crawford, shows it is possible to get voters to focus on the importance of the courts.

But Democrats have repeatedly failed to get voters to recognize the U.S. Senate's role with respect to federal courts.

Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME) winning re-election in 2020 after she voted to confirm nominee Brent Kavanaugh to the U.S. Supreme Court in 2018 is a prime example of that.
CedricH · 22-25, M
@beckyromero Good point.

If liberal policies hadn't taken root, the regressive slogan "Make America Great Again" wouldn't have appealed nearly as well as it did.

Of course, there's a lot more going on than just social conservatism vs. liberalism.

Trumpism focuses autocracy and a supreme executive, decrcriminalizing financial and corruption crimes other then for political retribution for example.

Historically, I dont think these are particularly "conservative" as much as regressive ideas, pushing back against not just the enlightenment, but also older innovations such as enforcing social crimes (murder, stealing, bearing false witness, coveting), respect for neighbors/other human beings, and, if you're an Arthurian fan, the idea that might doesn't make right.
@Reason10


America is not ready to become North Korea or the Soviet Union.

That's interesting because Trump's leadership "style" is so similar to that of Putin and Kim.

Do you really think that Obama was "the most far left President in history?
Reason10 · 70-79, M
@MistyCee Trump's leadership style is similar to President Reagan. Putin and Kim? Do you even know anything about those two?

Trump would shut down Congress and put all Democrats into camps, if he was like Putin or Kim.

Obama's far left polices are worse than KKKarter, KKKlinton and Redneck Johnson.
@Reason10 oh, ok.

I think I see where you're coming from.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
We did advance considerably, but if you hadn't noticed things are backtracking extremely fast. Never before in IS history did, i believe, and administration coming out and saying it wants to tell a major university how to hire its faculty, what to teach and how to teach it. With all the noise about Epstein and ICE, we do not have our eyes on the ball, the media, courts, and now education is being taken over by a radical movement that will not stop until it enslaved us all!
Reason10 · 70-79, M
@samueltyler2 and now education is being taken over by a radical movement that will not stop until it enslaved us all!

Excuse me, but the welfare state has ENSLAVED the taxpayer for as long as it has been in existence. And it is DEMOKKKRAT institution.

There is nothing radical about the Trump administration or Make America Great Again that could come anywhere close to radical.

Radical was Barak Saddam Hussein Obama. Radical was Pedophile Joe Biden. Radical was KKKlinton.

Far left UnAmericans who hate this country.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@Reason10 dream on, your radical right has abandoned a lot of the US constitution and is pushing us. Into a fascist state.
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Reason10 · 70-79, M
A lot of problem with that far left diatribe.

1. You are going to have to produce proof that somehow Vice President Vance is thinking of diminishing the voting rights of women without children. That's just a major bizarre LIE.

2. Dobbs was a triumph of DEMOCRACY over judicial oligarchy. The Blackmun Supreme Court violated the Constitution by passing Roe. Dobbs overturned a bad law and brought back DEMOCRACY. Each state (as well as the Federal Government) was given the DEMOCRATIC choice of keeping abortion, limiting abortion or outlawing abortion. DEMOCRACY is what Dobbs is all about.


3. You far left wingers are very confused about conservatism in American today, mostly because you never really had an accurate information base for conservatism over the years. You people don't even know the origins of modern day liberalism, (although the easiest textbook on that is the Communist Manifesto, by Karl Marx. You'll pretty much see the entire Democrat Party platform in that book.

4. Modern day conservatism is pretty easy to figure out: Freedom; liberty; the rule of law; free market capitalism with limited government; intact two parent families; marriage; color blind MERIT BASED hiring; ZERO bigotry based on the 14th Amendment. Most of America lines up with those values.

Liberalism pretty much is the opposite, which is why liberals are a minority in America.
Reason10 · 70-79, M
@CedricH He said they were meant to have more power going into the voting booth than childless individuals!

Connect the dots.


Show the legislation. Show the Constitutional Amendment that would have to be abolished.

Or admit you have once again LOST THE ARGUMENT.
CedricH · 22-25, M
@Reason10 It is regrettable that you can’t even concede the most obvious defeat. Well, what can I say. I can’t do more than provide you with his exact words. Vance’s nonsensical blabbering corroborates the statement in my original post. If you can’t acknowledge that then you‘re either illiterate or physically blind.
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MasterLee · 56-60, M
The liberals have dumbed down their followers and eroded education.
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