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Is social conservatism really winning in the United States?

These days, it’s probably easier to convince a pickup truck enthusiast to switch to a Prius than to persuade a Democrat that cultural liberalism remains dominant in the United States of the 2020s. After all, the Dobbs ruling, a Vice President who openly contemplates the virtue of diminishing voting rights for women without children, and the rise of pervasive Christian online influencers might all be seen as harbingers of America’s very own Handmaid’s Tale. Nevertheless, it is an incontrovertible fact that today’s American society is much more culturally liberal than it was 30 years ago.

Back then, social conservatives championed many pet projects fundamentally at odds with a liberal, enlightened, and secular nation. Behind each sub-group of dedicated and vociferous activists for “a proper moral order” stood sizeable segments of America’s voting populace. But what happened to these strident endeavors—banning stem cell research, instituting nationwide school prayers, teaching creationism in public schools across the country? They went nowhere. And just as these grassroots initiatives foundered, so too did popular support for them.

Meanwhile, inter-ethnic, inter-religious, inter-racial, and same-sex marriages, relationships, and partnerships have grown—accompanied by rising societal acceptance and an embrace of freedom and love over philistine bigotry. Support for the death penalty has declined, while female workforce participation and educational attainment have both improved remarkably.

Church attendance has dropped, as has the number of parents who still endorse corporal punishment. Relatedly, the number of states that permit corporal punishment in public schools has also declined. In this climate of growing cultural tolerance, cannabis has become far more socially and legally accepted—for better or worse. Immigration, too, is more popular today than it was three decades ago. The immigrant population has grown in both size and proportion, while the majority of Americans—whose views are often dismissed as broadly anti-immigration—are in fact mainly concerned about an unregulated, violent, and chaotic border. Their concerns are rooted in the perceived breakdown of law and order, a loss of national sovereignty, and a potential drain on the welfare state. Fewer and fewer oppose immigration because of fears over demographic shifts, a changing racial composition of the country, or labor market competition.

However, just like the crisis at the border, other illiberal identity-based policies have triggered a backlash. There is a renewed focus on expanding opportunity rather than enforcing equal outcomes, and a growing appreciation for the virtues of color- and gender-blindness over increasingly sectarian and divisive thought experiments that artificially impose categories among free and equal American citizens.

Affirmative action programs, policies perceived as special privileges for transgender individuals, calls for unlimited abortion access, public social micromanagement through DEI mandates in the private sector, weak on crime public prosecutors, illiberal cancel culture, and a politicized weakening of law enforcement—all have become untenable and political vulnerabilities for their unrepentant advocates. Notably, this includes the current Trump administration’s attacks on the FBI, which risk eroding its competence and integrity.
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If liberal policies hadn't taken root, the regressive slogan "Make America Great Again" wouldn't have appealed nearly as well as it did.

Of course, there's a lot more going on than just social conservatism vs. liberalism.

Trumpism focuses autocracy and a supreme executive, decrcriminalizing financial and corruption crimes other then for political retribution for example.

Historically, I dont think these are particularly "conservative" as much as regressive ideas, pushing back against not just the enlightenment, but also older innovations such as enforcing social crimes (murder, stealing, bearing false witness, coveting), respect for neighbors/other human beings, and, if you're an Arthurian fan, the idea that might doesn't make right.
CedricH · 22-25, M
@MistyCee I think you’re exactly right. While Trump‘s MAGA movement clearly benefits from residual John Birch Society/Pat Buchanan elements, he‘s not personally or ideologically invested in social conservatism at all - he‘s a pretty “modern” authoritarian, nationalist populist.

So yeah, the really worrisome trends are exactly the ones you‘ve mentioned, the arrogation of increasing executive power, the concerning centralization of power, a growing abuse of power for repressive purposes, an erosion of the rule of law, of government expertise and integrity, an intensely hostile us v. them approach on every significant issue, the proliferation of corruption and a total collapse of civic norms and expectations in the political sphere.

That being said, my post wasn’t meant to cover this menacing, but somewhat separate, development.
@CedricH Sorry if I diverted you, but I think a lot of social conservatives are hanging onto Trump, despite the fact that his socially conservative views and policies are a sham, and are likely to be abandoned as soon as they become inconvenient.

There's very little room for principled dissent under Trumpism, or even historical loyalty.
CedricH · 22-25, M
@MistyCee They do hang on to him because, realistically, the alternative for them would be a Democrat. They have a pretty bipolar mindset and Democrats/liberals are seen as almost satanic enemies. He‘s their avenger and they hope he can be their vessel - and on some issues he proved to be exactly that, for instance by strengthening the conservative majority on the bench of the Supreme Court.
@CedricH

They have a pretty bipolar mindset and Democrats/liberals are seen as almost satanic enemies.

You may be too young to remember Limbaugh's "dittoheads", but today's Trump followers are descended from them.

People filled with hate and grievance, intellectually incapable of articulating, but willing to enthustically bark for the fish thrown their way.

I really doubt there's much true conservative social thought going on with the masses, even though they crave liberal flesh and blood.
CedricH · 22-25, M
@MistyCee I know Rush 😅 and his popularity on the right was definitely a bad omen for what was to come.
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CedricH · 22-25, M
@Reason10 Gosh, you‘ve got a chip on your shoulder the size of Texas.
Reason10 · 70-79, M
@CedricH I know Rush 😅 and his popularity on the right was definitely a bad omen for what was to come. Rush Limbaugh managed some amazing things for a guy who (a) dropped out of college and (b) was fired from every radio job he ever held, (until he formed his own EIB network.). He rescued the environment of AM radio. His books were on the New York Times best sellers list. And he provided BALANCE in a media largely dominated by far left goose steppers.

Rush's friend Roger Ailes helped form FOXNEWS, the most successful, accurate and balanced news source in the world.

Only people who HATE AMERICA have a problem with the Doctor of Democracy and
WINNER OF THE CONGRESSIONAL MEDAL OF FREEDOM.

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@Reason10


America is not ready to become North Korea or the Soviet Union.

That's interesting because Trump's leadership "style" is so similar to that of Putin and Kim.

Do you really think that Obama was "the most far left President in history?
Reason10 · 70-79, M
@MistyCee Trump's leadership style is similar to President Reagan. Putin and Kim? Do you even know anything about those two?

Trump would shut down Congress and put all Democrats into camps, if he was like Putin or Kim.

Obama's far left polices are worse than KKKarter, KKKlinton and Redneck Johnson.
@Reason10 oh, ok.

I think I see where you're coming from.