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Is social conservatism really winning in the United States?

These days, it’s probably easier to convince a pickup truck enthusiast to switch to a Prius than to persuade a Democrat that cultural liberalism remains dominant in the United States of the 2020s. After all, the Dobbs ruling, a Vice President who openly contemplates the virtue of diminishing voting rights for women without children, and the rise of pervasive Christian online influencers might all be seen as harbingers of America’s very own Handmaid’s Tale. Nevertheless, it is an incontrovertible fact that today’s American society is much more culturally liberal than it was 30 years ago.

Back then, social conservatives championed many pet projects fundamentally at odds with a liberal, enlightened, and secular nation. Behind each sub-group of dedicated and vociferous activists for “a proper moral order” stood sizeable segments of America’s voting populace. But what happened to these strident endeavors—banning stem cell research, instituting nationwide school prayers, teaching creationism in public schools across the country? They went nowhere. And just as these grassroots initiatives foundered, so too did popular support for them.

Meanwhile, inter-ethnic, inter-religious, inter-racial, and same-sex marriages, relationships, and partnerships have grown—accompanied by rising societal acceptance and an embrace of freedom and love over philistine bigotry. Support for the death penalty has declined, while female workforce participation and educational attainment have both improved remarkably.

Church attendance has dropped, as has the number of parents who still endorse corporal punishment. Relatedly, the number of states that permit corporal punishment in public schools has also declined. In this climate of growing cultural tolerance, cannabis has become far more socially and legally accepted—for better or worse. Immigration, too, is more popular today than it was three decades ago. The immigrant population has grown in both size and proportion, while the majority of Americans—whose views are often dismissed as broadly anti-immigration—are in fact mainly concerned about an unregulated, violent, and chaotic border. Their concerns are rooted in the perceived breakdown of law and order, a loss of national sovereignty, and a potential drain on the welfare state. Fewer and fewer oppose immigration because of fears over demographic shifts, a changing racial composition of the country, or labor market competition.

However, just like the crisis at the border, other illiberal identity-based policies have triggered a backlash. There is a renewed focus on expanding opportunity rather than enforcing equal outcomes, and a growing appreciation for the virtues of color- and gender-blindness over increasingly sectarian and divisive thought experiments that artificially impose categories among free and equal American citizens.

Affirmative action programs, policies perceived as special privileges for transgender individuals, calls for unlimited abortion access, public social micromanagement through DEI mandates in the private sector, weak on crime public prosecutors, illiberal cancel culture, and a politicized weakening of law enforcement—all have become untenable and political vulnerabilities for their unrepentant advocates. Notably, this includes the current Trump administration’s attacks on the FBI, which risk eroding its competence and integrity.
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Reason10 · 70-79, M
A lot of problem with that far left diatribe.

1. You are going to have to produce proof that somehow Vice President Vance is thinking of diminishing the voting rights of women without children. That's just a major bizarre LIE.

2. Dobbs was a triumph of DEMOCRACY over judicial oligarchy. The Blackmun Supreme Court violated the Constitution by passing Roe. Dobbs overturned a bad law and brought back DEMOCRACY. Each state (as well as the Federal Government) was given the DEMOCRATIC choice of keeping abortion, limiting abortion or outlawing abortion. DEMOCRACY is what Dobbs is all about.


3. You far left wingers are very confused about conservatism in American today, mostly because you never really had an accurate information base for conservatism over the years. You people don't even know the origins of modern day liberalism, (although the easiest textbook on that is the Communist Manifesto, by Karl Marx. You'll pretty much see the entire Democrat Party platform in that book.

4. Modern day conservatism is pretty easy to figure out: Freedom; liberty; the rule of law; free market capitalism with limited government; intact two parent families; marriage; color blind MERIT BASED hiring; ZERO bigotry based on the 14th Amendment. Most of America lines up with those values.

Liberalism pretty much is the opposite, which is why liberals are a minority in America.
CedricH · 22-25, M
@Reason10

1.
Vance once advocated that children get votes that parents could cast
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/07/24/jd-vance-parents-kids-voting/

2. By the way, I‘m not criticizing the Dobbs ruling per se in my post. I actually highlighted the problem of limitless abortion access pre-Dobbs.

3. Let me assure you, no hardcore leftwinger would wanna have me in their company.
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CedricH · 22-25, M
@Reason10 Zero evidence, huh?

Here‘s the YouTube link to the speech he gave in 2021 in which he suggested exactly what you‘re now reflexively denying on his behalf.

When you go to the polls in this country as a parent, you should have more power,” he told the conservative Intercollegiate Studies Institute. “You should have more of an ability to speak your voice in our democratic republic than people who don’t have kids. Let’s face the consequences and the reality. If you don’t have as much of an investment in the future of this country, maybe you shouldn’t get nearly the same voice.”

[media=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBrEng3xQYo]
Reason10 · 70-79, M
@CedricH He said NOTHING about (a) giving parents multiple votes based on the number of children they have, or (b) denying childless voters their votes. He was very non specific about it. He was throwing meat to an audience of pro American carnivores.

Go ahead. Name the legislation he proposed during that speech, which would give a mother and a father multiple votes based on the number of children they have.

Anybody can throw out an opinion. And you far left goose steppers, with COMMUNISTS like Mamdani have ZERO room to talk when it comes to radical ideas.
CedricH · 22-25, M
@Reason10 You were wrong. I was right. Deal with it.
Reason10 · 70-79, M
@CedricH Nope. I was right and you were wrong.

Go ahead and name the legislation. Name the actual policy.

You can't because he never said it.
CedricH · 22-25, M
@Reason10 Nope. Wrong. I never said he proposed a specific legislation, did I?
a Vice President who openly contemplates
I said that he had expressed a very dangerous and anti-constitutional sentiment. And that he did. You‘re an apologist for fascism my friend. And you’re not even good at it.
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CedricH · 22-25, M
@Reason10 He said they were meant to have more power going into the voting booth than childless individuals!

Connect the dots.
Reason10 · 70-79, M
@CedricH He said they were meant to have more power going into the voting booth than childless individuals!

Connect the dots.


Show the legislation. Show the Constitutional Amendment that would have to be abolished.

Or admit you have once again LOST THE ARGUMENT.
CedricH · 22-25, M
@Reason10 It is regrettable that you can’t even concede the most obvious defeat. Well, what can I say. I can’t do more than provide you with his exact words. Vance’s nonsensical blabbering corroborates the statement in my original post. If you can’t acknowledge that then you‘re either illiterate or physically blind.
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