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Why won't the woke people support Trump's drive to dismantle Deep State? Are they the Nazis?

Tulsi Gabbard is now America's top spy. Her ascendance to director of national intelligence last month signaled a major shift in views toward government surveillance at the highest rung of the US intelligence community. She pledged to bring about new levels of oversight and transparency to a key US surveillance program that’s long been plagued by reports of misuse.

Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA)—the nation’s cornerstone wiretap authority that, while aimed at collecting intelligence on foreigners overseas, is known to vacuum up large quantities of calls, texts, and emails belonging to Americans. Whistle-blower Edward Snowdon, who warned Americans of this, had to flee to Russia to escape capture by US law enforcement.

Declassifying critical information about the number of US persons whose communications are collected under this surveillance is essential to increasing transparency.

The public deserves to know, what Section 702 is being used for, and how many Americans are swept up in that surveillance.
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PalteseMalconFunch · 36-40, T
My genuine answer is because I don’t trust him. He’s not going to actually do anything good for me. He’s going to do things good for himself, bad for me…and then lie about it.

I’m against the things you mentioned here.

But I don’t trust these people to fix it. They’ll just make it worse and again…lie about it.

That’s how us woke feel

We’re opposed to what Trump is doing because it’s Trump and it’s all BS.

That’s what frustrated me so much seeing what people say. And this TDS nonsense.

If you had a surgeon that had a long history of making medical mistakes and you refused to let them operate on your tumor that doesn’t mean you have derangement syndrome against them. Or that you’re pro cancer. You just don’t trust that person to get the job done, even if they say they can.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@PalteseMalconFunch
Do you think it’s bigotry to not want to eat dinner with Hannibal Lector?

Yes.

Lecter is a brilliant, cannibalistic serial killer and former forensic psychiatrist. He is a fictional character created for a novel. Trump is also a fictional character created by your mind for venting hatred. Trump himself is a showman. He has created a persona for the US presidency. He knows how to push buttons. He has pushed many people's buttons and caused them to implode and fizzle out. Nancy Pelosi was turned into Crazy Nancy like black magic. Pochahontas is stuck in my mind. I can't even recall who she was before when I watch that familiar face railing on TV in a Congressional hearing.

You've got to watch it, man. Don't roll in the mud pit fighting with that pig.
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@whowasthatmaskedman Re: fascist and your remarks, my Government in many administrations have acted in concert in corporate patronage with our politicians with the concept of special interests as is IMO defined in the included image. Aka at the trough…
Good chance they stand to lose the “investments” they made under the Biden administration and thinking the returns would be good.
Oh, well!

And IMO the term NAZI. Is used much too often, and from both sides. That needs to stop. It’s a waste of breath!
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@soar2newhighs I agree the term "Nazi" is overworked and not really applicable today. Its contained a particular brand of racial hatred and violence that doesnt apply now. "Facist" however does fit the bill reasonably well. America with its oligarchy and corporate patronage of politicinans in exchange for controlling power is within the definition of Facist..😷
dancingtongue · 80-89, M
@whowasthatmaskedman
I agree the term "Nazi" is overworked and not really applicable today. Its contained a particular brand of racial hatred and violence that doesnt apply now.

The amount of fear-mongering, vitriol, labeling, etc., spewing out of Trump and his crowd certainly sounds like facial hatred and has generated violence. It may not yet be institutionalized into death camps and final solutions, but it is a fine line you are drawing.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@dancingtongue I admit, it might go that way. All the precursors are in place..😷
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As an ex-employee of NSA.............let me tell you this. if you use a phone............landline or cell.........YOU are monitored. EVERY word you say can and might be surveilled depending on if you purposedly or even accidently say any word on a "catch list". There is a list of words that automatically singles you out for monitoring for a given period of time. Say those words and you are automatically surveilled. During that time EVERY call you make is recorded. This also applies when you make an international call. There is no need to ask "how many". The definitive answer is EVERY AMERICAN.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@anythingoes477
Read a book sometime.

Books contain disinformation.
@sree251 Congratulations.......your brainwashing is complete.
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Democracy is available to design and fund the state people voted for. Democracy is available to modify the state and continue to get better results.
Dismantling the social welfare state is the best way to punish the population and concentrate the power for certain war mongering oligarchs. Americans would never have it any other way!
The deadliest country leads through war and controls the world! Deadly they always are,!!!
sree251 · 41-45, M
@Roundandroundwego
Deadly they always are,!!!

Deadly WE always are.

Don't point at others. There are only us war mongers.
@sree251 I voted for Jill Stein last time and never once had a normal mainstream indoor home. Homeless leftists are not the country. It's the nation that represents only its conservative and moderate voters and killed communism - do not pretend it didn't earn our complete contempt or that it ever included us leftists.
I say ",you" and it proves my point -no Americans ever once said they voted for peace and socialism like I do. No users ever. You are the country. You never once objected to the results.
ididntknow · 51-55, M
Propaganda / indoctrination / brainwashing / gaslighting / projection, are all tools that have been used by the democrat party for years, to keep the people in line, misinformed, BLM, Antifa, the mainstream media, big tech, ie YouTube, Google, all being used to project an unreal world, ie, what was said about the Hunter Biden laptop 💻 they all lied, about it, and was backed up by all the media, that is just one example
sree251 · 41-45, M
To the woke people, the right thing done by the wrong guy is the wrong thing. They are up in arms over the uncovering of fraud, waste and corruption by DOGE. They just won't stop even when Deep State is sending social security benefits to 200 year-olds!
sree251 · 41-45, M
@PalteseMalconFunch
See my response above. That isn’t happening. They’re just lying.

Ok, it is a lie if the allegation - that 200 year olds are getting social security benefits - is unfounded. So far, I have not seen refutation from Carolyn Colvin, Acting Commissioner of Social Security Administration from 2024 till January 20, 2025. No refutation from her predeccessors listed below:

Martin O'malley 2023-2024
Kilolo Kijakazi 2021-2023
Andrew Saul 2019-2021
Nancy Berryhill 2017-2019
Carolyn Colvin 2013-2017
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sree251 · 41-45, M
@PalteseMalconFunch
Why would people in the past have made a statement about an accusation that hadn’t been made yet?

All those people in the past were commissioners managing the Administration of Social Security paying out money to 200 year old recipients not to mention dead beneficiaries. They have not denied DOGE accusations.
nudistsueaz · 61-69, F
It sure seems that way, doesn't it?
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
There is no "Deep State". There is only Paul Simons "loose affiliation of Millionaires and Billionaires" buying politicians and officials for their own profit. Jeffrey Epstein was part of that world.😷
CountScrofula · 41-45, M
Man you are -confused-.
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trollslayer · 46-50, M
Because the “deep state” is fiction. There is a problem with your question.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@trollslayer
nancy pelosi is an elected representative, not “deep state”

What do you think "Deep State" is? It is a figure of speech to describe elected individuals who exercise power independent of and over people who voted for them instead of serving them.
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@sree251 that definition is different than what i heard.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@trollslayer
that definition is different than what i heard.

You heard from folks who have gotten it wrong. Take for example, General Brown and Mark Milley, Joint Chiefs of Staff. They reckon they know better than the President elected by the people. Those generals are deep state actors with minds of their own. Politicians, up for election, who shake your hands to get your vote and spit on you after they are elected to office. Those politicians are deep state actors.
Yes, they ARE the Nazis.
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swirlie · F
The deep state is actually the entire US government regardless of which color of neck tie is worn in the Oval Office.

Why are you using the acronym 'NAZI' in your question?
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