ElwoodBlues · M
Some of 卐LON's claims are proven false; plenty more are completely unsupported. This report is from Forbes.
Billionaire government efficiency chief Elon Musk has repeatedly spread baseless or false claims about government spending, including by the U.S. Agency for International Development and other agencies, making various unsupported allegations of criminal activity and a recent misleading claim that disaster relief funds were spent to house migrants in “luxury hotels” in New York.
Did The Government Pay Reuters For “social Deception?”
Musk reposted a claim on X made by Mario Nawfal, who has 2 million followers and hosts the “Roundtable Show” on X Spaces, who alleged the Department of Defense made a $9 million payment to Reuters for a “large scale social deception” project, citing the USASpending.gov website. Though the Department of Defense did make a $9 million payment, it was actually issued to Thomson Reuters Special Services—the data and research arm of Reuters, not the newsroom—and the project was not to deceive society, as Musk’s post may imply. The project, according to the Defense Department’s Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, was to fund research for “automated defense against social engineering attacks.” Trump also attacked “Radical Left Reuters” on Truth Social and demanded the organization return the money—though the payment was issued during his first term.
Did Fema Spend $59 Million On Housing Migrants In Nyc Luxury Hotels?
No. Although FEMA did allocate $59 million to New York last week as part of a payment package approved last year, Musk made multiple misleading claims about the payment in a post on X on Monday. Contrary to Musk’s post, the money sent to New York was not “disaster relief” and came from a pool of money separate from FEMA’s disaster efforts. The money was approved by Congress last year as part of the Shelter and Services Program, which FEMA administers alongside the U.S. Customs and Border Protection. New York was allocated about $237 million as a partial reimbursement for the about $7 billion it has spent on housing migrants, The New York Times reported, and a $59 million payment was made last week as part of this allocation. Of that payment, about $19 million was spent on hotel fees, but contrary to Musk’s post, New York officials said these payments were not made on luxury hotels. Also unlike Musk’s post, New York officials said they have not received any request to return the money.
Are Anti-Doge Protests Funded By Ngos?
Musk amplified an unproven speculative claim, made without evidence by the world’s most popular podcaster, Joe Rogan, in a post on X on Tuesday, claiming “so many fake protests” against Musk and DOGE are “paid for by the same corrupt NGOs that @DOGE is defunding.” Musk’s post, viewed more than 11 million times, contained a clip from Rogan’s podcast released earlier this week in which he said he “guarantees” anti-Musk protests are “organized by the same people that are going to lose a shitload of money based on all these discoveries at DOGE.” Rogan continued to make false or misleading claims, including that USAID funded a lab that “invented” COVID-19, and provided no evidence for USAID or any other government agency or NGO funding anti-Musk protests. Rogan baselessly claimed NGOs are “using their access to these mailing lists” and are “mobilizing other NGOs” to organize protests, without naming any specific organizations or protests. Protests against the Trump administration, Musk and DOGE have been held in multiple states in recent weeks, including in California, Minnesota, Michigan and Texas. Some of these protesters have organized online with the hashtag #buildtheresistance, the Los Angeles Times reported, but there’s no evidence to suggest these protests were funded by NGOs or agencies that DOGE plans to defund.
Are Bureaucrats Making “tens Of Millions” On Taxpayer Money?
Musk claimed while taking questions from reporters at the White House on Tuesday that federal employees, including those at USAID, “managed to accrue tens of millions of dollars” while working for the federal government, accusing them of profiting off of taxpayer money. He did not name names, but said “quite a few people,” whom he called “fraudsters,” were receiving “kickbacks.” Musk offered no evidence of who is getting rich or by how much, and he did not elaborate on specific instances of any criminal activity, including fraud.
Is Usaid A Form Of “money Laundering?”
There’s no evidence to suggest USAID has engaged in money laundering. On Saturday afternoon, Musk reposted a claim on X that suggested USAID was a “form of money laundering tax payers money into far-left organizations,” adding: “Absolutely,” though neither poster offered sources or factual information. Although Republicans have criticized the organization for alleged wasteful spending, there’s no evidence that USAID was engaging in criminal behavior to support left-wing organizations.
Source: https://www.forbes.com/sites/conormurray/2025/02/10/elon-musk-pushes-false-claim-ex-usaid-chief-earned-23-million-the-biggest-doge-hoaxes-spread-on-x/
Billionaire government efficiency chief Elon Musk has repeatedly spread baseless or false claims about government spending, including by the U.S. Agency for International Development and other agencies, making various unsupported allegations of criminal activity and a recent misleading claim that disaster relief funds were spent to house migrants in “luxury hotels” in New York.
Did The Government Pay Reuters For “social Deception?”
Musk reposted a claim on X made by Mario Nawfal, who has 2 million followers and hosts the “Roundtable Show” on X Spaces, who alleged the Department of Defense made a $9 million payment to Reuters for a “large scale social deception” project, citing the USASpending.gov website. Though the Department of Defense did make a $9 million payment, it was actually issued to Thomson Reuters Special Services—the data and research arm of Reuters, not the newsroom—and the project was not to deceive society, as Musk’s post may imply. The project, according to the Defense Department’s Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, was to fund research for “automated defense against social engineering attacks.” Trump also attacked “Radical Left Reuters” on Truth Social and demanded the organization return the money—though the payment was issued during his first term.
Did Fema Spend $59 Million On Housing Migrants In Nyc Luxury Hotels?
No. Although FEMA did allocate $59 million to New York last week as part of a payment package approved last year, Musk made multiple misleading claims about the payment in a post on X on Monday. Contrary to Musk’s post, the money sent to New York was not “disaster relief” and came from a pool of money separate from FEMA’s disaster efforts. The money was approved by Congress last year as part of the Shelter and Services Program, which FEMA administers alongside the U.S. Customs and Border Protection. New York was allocated about $237 million as a partial reimbursement for the about $7 billion it has spent on housing migrants, The New York Times reported, and a $59 million payment was made last week as part of this allocation. Of that payment, about $19 million was spent on hotel fees, but contrary to Musk’s post, New York officials said these payments were not made on luxury hotels. Also unlike Musk’s post, New York officials said they have not received any request to return the money.
Are Anti-Doge Protests Funded By Ngos?
Musk amplified an unproven speculative claim, made without evidence by the world’s most popular podcaster, Joe Rogan, in a post on X on Tuesday, claiming “so many fake protests” against Musk and DOGE are “paid for by the same corrupt NGOs that @DOGE is defunding.” Musk’s post, viewed more than 11 million times, contained a clip from Rogan’s podcast released earlier this week in which he said he “guarantees” anti-Musk protests are “organized by the same people that are going to lose a shitload of money based on all these discoveries at DOGE.” Rogan continued to make false or misleading claims, including that USAID funded a lab that “invented” COVID-19, and provided no evidence for USAID or any other government agency or NGO funding anti-Musk protests. Rogan baselessly claimed NGOs are “using their access to these mailing lists” and are “mobilizing other NGOs” to organize protests, without naming any specific organizations or protests. Protests against the Trump administration, Musk and DOGE have been held in multiple states in recent weeks, including in California, Minnesota, Michigan and Texas. Some of these protesters have organized online with the hashtag #buildtheresistance, the Los Angeles Times reported, but there’s no evidence to suggest these protests were funded by NGOs or agencies that DOGE plans to defund.
Are Bureaucrats Making “tens Of Millions” On Taxpayer Money?
Musk claimed while taking questions from reporters at the White House on Tuesday that federal employees, including those at USAID, “managed to accrue tens of millions of dollars” while working for the federal government, accusing them of profiting off of taxpayer money. He did not name names, but said “quite a few people,” whom he called “fraudsters,” were receiving “kickbacks.” Musk offered no evidence of who is getting rich or by how much, and he did not elaborate on specific instances of any criminal activity, including fraud.
Is Usaid A Form Of “money Laundering?”
There’s no evidence to suggest USAID has engaged in money laundering. On Saturday afternoon, Musk reposted a claim on X that suggested USAID was a “form of money laundering tax payers money into far-left organizations,” adding: “Absolutely,” though neither poster offered sources or factual information. Although Republicans have criticized the organization for alleged wasteful spending, there’s no evidence that USAID was engaging in criminal behavior to support left-wing organizations.
Source: https://www.forbes.com/sites/conormurray/2025/02/10/elon-musk-pushes-false-claim-ex-usaid-chief-earned-23-million-the-biggest-doge-hoaxes-spread-on-x/
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ElwoodBlues · M
@sunsporter1649 Is that all you've got?? Just one lousy intrusion with nothing ransomed?? Tesla leaks like a sieve!!!
So you admit you have ZERO actual evidence of fraud found by DOGE? Good to know.
The opposition to DOGE is against shifting the data to insecure non-government servers and not knowing where it will spread after that. Remember all the fuss about Hillary's emails on private servers?? This is the same thing magnified by 10,000,000.
We have strict data protection and data security laws in this country, and 卐LON, aided and abetted by Tяump, is running roughshod over them.
Tesla Hacked 4 Times In One Day—What You Need To Know Jan 23, 2025,
https://www.forbes.com/sites/daveywinder/2025/01/23/tesla-hacked-4-times-in-one-day-what-you-need-to-know/ » Breach in Tesla Model 3’s TPMS Unveils Serious Security Flaw September 12, 2024
https://cybellum.com/blog/breach-in-tesla-model-3-tpms-unveils-serious-security-flaw/Breaking Into Tesla’s IVI System: Synacktiv’s Two-Bug Exploit Chain at Pwn2Own Automotive 2024
https://vicone.com/blog/breaking-into-teslas-ivi-system-synacktivs-two-bug-exploit-chain-at-pwn2own-automotive-2024Tesla begins notifying workers who were affected by data breach August 19, 2023
https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/19/business/tesla-data-breach-employee-personal-info/index.htmlReport: ‘massive’ Tesla leak reveals data breaches, thousands of safety complaints
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/may/26/tesla-data-leak-customers-employees-safety-complaintsTesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars April 6, 2023
https://www.reuters.com/technology/tesla-workers-shared-sensitive-images-recorded-by-customer-cars-2023-04-06/So you admit you have ZERO actual evidence of fraud found by DOGE? Good to know.
The opposition to DOGE is against shifting the data to insecure non-government servers and not knowing where it will spread after that. Remember all the fuss about Hillary's emails on private servers?? This is the same thing magnified by 10,000,000.
We have strict data protection and data security laws in this country, and 卐LON, aided and abetted by Tяump, is running roughshod over them.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@ElwoodBlues A ransomware attack targeted network file shares on a system owned and operated by a contractor working with the department’s Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS). This resulted in the exposure of personal data for 2.8 million individuals, 1.3 million of them deceased. The compromised information included names, addresses, dates of birth, Medicare identifiers, and bank details. As a result of the incident, CMS moved the systems in-house and offered victims free credit monitoring.
In another major incident involving HHS, attackers targeted two contractors using a zero-day vulnerability to access systems containing HHS data. There was no sign that HHS systems were compromised, but the compromise of the contractors’ systems potentially exposed the personal information of 1.88 million individuals held for agencies including the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the National Institutes of Health, and CMS. This included names, social security numbers, email addresses, phone numbers, dates of birth, medical diagnoses, and other information.
In February 2023, ransomware hit a computer system at the United States Marshals Service (USMS) containing personal information on staff and those involved in legal processes, forcing the USMS to build a new system and restore from backup. Affected individuals were notified and offered free credit monitoring.
Another ransomware incident, this time in May 2023, hit systems at a vendor providing data analytics support for specific cases for the Department of Justice’s Civil Division and some US Attorneys’ offices. This attack compromised personal and medical data. A third-part incident response service was called to investigate and clean up, and individuals affected were offered credit monitoring services.
In an unforced error, the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) inadvertently exposed personal information that it had already exposed the previous fiscal year. The IRS is supposed to disclose 501(c)3 organizations’ miscellaneous income by publishing redacted versions of their Exempt Organization Business Income Tax Return (990-T) forms. It hired a contractor to help automate this process, but a coding error led to the forms of all 501(c) organizations being exposed until the error was reported in August 2022. Although the data was promptly removed from the public web server, it was inadvertently published again from a staging server in the following fiscal year.
The OMB made a big deal of one incident involving a bad actor gaining access to the login credentials of just one employee for just 15 hours — maybe because that person worked for the Office of the Inspector General (OIG), which has full access to all records and materials available to the Treasury Department, determines which of them to audit or investigate, and writes the reports. Due to the OIG’s defense in depth, the nation-state sponsored actor behind the attack was unable to access any information resources nor introduce any malware during the time they had access. The Treasury Department updated its multi-factor authentication policies, validated software configurations, and subjected staff to awareness training to prevent a reoccurrence.
The US Office of Personnel Management (OPM) reported a major incident involving a zero-day vulnerability in a file transfer application — likely the MOVEit hack, although it was not explicitly named — used by a contractor supporting the Federal Employee Viewpoint Survey (FEVS). The breach compromised government email addresses, unique survey links, and OPM tracking codes for about 632,000 employees at the Departments of Justice and Defense. In response, OPM stopped transferring FEVS data to the contractor, deactivated the survey links, assessed the harm, and notified affected individuals. The assessment found no evidence of unauthorized access or manipulation of survey results.
A Consumer Financial Protection Bureau employee — no longer with the agency, naturally — sent to their personal email account 14 emails containing personal information and two spreadsheets with details of around 256,000 customers of one single financial institution. The former employee ignored demands from CFPB to delete the emails and send proof of deletion. The official assessment indicated the data couldn’t be used for account access or identity theft, but some affected individuals were notified just in case. In addition, the CFPB strengthened technical controls to prevent inadvertent breaches, reminded all staff and contractors of its privacy policies, and reviewed all its information management procedures.
Federal employees benefitting from the TRANServe initiative may have regretted their decision to take the train. Approximately 237,000 of them were potentially affected when attackers breached several administrative systems and stole personal data from the Parking and Transit Benefit System (PTBS), which administers incentives to federal employees to take mass transportation to work. The attackers exploited an unpatched critical vulnerability in an unnamed commercial web application development platform, obtaining names, home and work addresses, and the last four digits of social security numbers. The Department of Transportation rebuilt affected servers with patched software, and offered credit monitoring services to staff.
An authorized developer at the Interior Department’s Interior Business Center (IBC) modified a payroll system’s security policy, inadvertently allowing HR personnel to view 36 federal agencies’ employee records. This potentially exposed personal data of around 147,000 individuals. An investigation revealed that the IBC failed to conduct a privacy impact assessment after changes to its systems, prompting it to strengthen internal processes and training.
The Department of Energy reported that a known but unnamed ransomware group exploited a zero-day vulnerability in a supposedly secure file transfer product used by the Waste Isolation Pilot Plant (WIPP) and Oak Ridge Associated Universities (ORAU). The ransomware group was able to access WIPP and ORAU systems and claimed it had exfiltrated data, potentially involving the details of 34,000 individuals in a health monitoring program for former DOE employees and 66,000 individuals from the Office of Science. The compromised data included names, birthdates, social security numbers, and some health information. Affected individuals were notified and provided with identity monitoring services.
In another major incident involving HHS, attackers targeted two contractors using a zero-day vulnerability to access systems containing HHS data. There was no sign that HHS systems were compromised, but the compromise of the contractors’ systems potentially exposed the personal information of 1.88 million individuals held for agencies including the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the National Institutes of Health, and CMS. This included names, social security numbers, email addresses, phone numbers, dates of birth, medical diagnoses, and other information.
In February 2023, ransomware hit a computer system at the United States Marshals Service (USMS) containing personal information on staff and those involved in legal processes, forcing the USMS to build a new system and restore from backup. Affected individuals were notified and offered free credit monitoring.
Another ransomware incident, this time in May 2023, hit systems at a vendor providing data analytics support for specific cases for the Department of Justice’s Civil Division and some US Attorneys’ offices. This attack compromised personal and medical data. A third-part incident response service was called to investigate and clean up, and individuals affected were offered credit monitoring services.
In an unforced error, the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) inadvertently exposed personal information that it had already exposed the previous fiscal year. The IRS is supposed to disclose 501(c)3 organizations’ miscellaneous income by publishing redacted versions of their Exempt Organization Business Income Tax Return (990-T) forms. It hired a contractor to help automate this process, but a coding error led to the forms of all 501(c) organizations being exposed until the error was reported in August 2022. Although the data was promptly removed from the public web server, it was inadvertently published again from a staging server in the following fiscal year.
The OMB made a big deal of one incident involving a bad actor gaining access to the login credentials of just one employee for just 15 hours — maybe because that person worked for the Office of the Inspector General (OIG), which has full access to all records and materials available to the Treasury Department, determines which of them to audit or investigate, and writes the reports. Due to the OIG’s defense in depth, the nation-state sponsored actor behind the attack was unable to access any information resources nor introduce any malware during the time they had access. The Treasury Department updated its multi-factor authentication policies, validated software configurations, and subjected staff to awareness training to prevent a reoccurrence.
The US Office of Personnel Management (OPM) reported a major incident involving a zero-day vulnerability in a file transfer application — likely the MOVEit hack, although it was not explicitly named — used by a contractor supporting the Federal Employee Viewpoint Survey (FEVS). The breach compromised government email addresses, unique survey links, and OPM tracking codes for about 632,000 employees at the Departments of Justice and Defense. In response, OPM stopped transferring FEVS data to the contractor, deactivated the survey links, assessed the harm, and notified affected individuals. The assessment found no evidence of unauthorized access or manipulation of survey results.
A Consumer Financial Protection Bureau employee — no longer with the agency, naturally — sent to their personal email account 14 emails containing personal information and two spreadsheets with details of around 256,000 customers of one single financial institution. The former employee ignored demands from CFPB to delete the emails and send proof of deletion. The official assessment indicated the data couldn’t be used for account access or identity theft, but some affected individuals were notified just in case. In addition, the CFPB strengthened technical controls to prevent inadvertent breaches, reminded all staff and contractors of its privacy policies, and reviewed all its information management procedures.
Federal employees benefitting from the TRANServe initiative may have regretted their decision to take the train. Approximately 237,000 of them were potentially affected when attackers breached several administrative systems and stole personal data from the Parking and Transit Benefit System (PTBS), which administers incentives to federal employees to take mass transportation to work. The attackers exploited an unpatched critical vulnerability in an unnamed commercial web application development platform, obtaining names, home and work addresses, and the last four digits of social security numbers. The Department of Transportation rebuilt affected servers with patched software, and offered credit monitoring services to staff.
An authorized developer at the Interior Department’s Interior Business Center (IBC) modified a payroll system’s security policy, inadvertently allowing HR personnel to view 36 federal agencies’ employee records. This potentially exposed personal data of around 147,000 individuals. An investigation revealed that the IBC failed to conduct a privacy impact assessment after changes to its systems, prompting it to strengthen internal processes and training.
The Department of Energy reported that a known but unnamed ransomware group exploited a zero-day vulnerability in a supposedly secure file transfer product used by the Waste Isolation Pilot Plant (WIPP) and Oak Ridge Associated Universities (ORAU). The ransomware group was able to access WIPP and ORAU systems and claimed it had exfiltrated data, potentially involving the details of 34,000 individuals in a health monitoring program for former DOE employees and 66,000 individuals from the Office of Science. The compromised data included names, birthdates, social security numbers, and some health information. Affected individuals were notified and provided with identity monitoring services.
ElwoodBlues · M
@sunsporter1649 says
… a system owned and operated by a contractor …
… targeted two contractors …
… hit systems at a vendor …
… It hired a contractor to help automate this process, but a coding error …
… sent to their personal email account …
… unpatched critical vulnerability in an unnamed commercial web application …
… in a supposedly secure file transfer product …
You're just emphasizing my point! Time after time, it's the external server or the external software, isn't it?
So you admit you have ZERO actual evidence of fraud found by DOGE? Good to know.
The opposition to DOGE is against shifting the data to insecure non-government servers and not knowing where it will spread after that. Remember all the fuss about Hillary's emails on private servers?? This is the same thing magnified by 10,000,000.
We have strict data protection and data security laws in this country, and 卐LON, aided and abetted by Tяump, is running roughshod over them.
… a system owned and operated by a contractor …
… targeted two contractors …
… hit systems at a vendor …
… It hired a contractor to help automate this process, but a coding error …
… sent to their personal email account …
… unpatched critical vulnerability in an unnamed commercial web application …
… in a supposedly secure file transfer product …
You're just emphasizing my point! Time after time, it's the external server or the external software, isn't it?
So you admit you have ZERO actual evidence of fraud found by DOGE? Good to know.
The opposition to DOGE is against shifting the data to insecure non-government servers and not knowing where it will spread after that. Remember all the fuss about Hillary's emails on private servers?? This is the same thing magnified by 10,000,000.
We have strict data protection and data security laws in this country, and 卐LON, aided and abetted by Tяump, is running roughshod over them.
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
Absolutely reasonable. Anything that emanates from DOGE should be treated with extreme scepticism and npt accepted until the contents have been rigorously fact-checked by independent journalists.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@SunshineGirl Then you have no problem opening the books for inspection, eh?
ElwoodBlues · M
Turns out his 150 year old social security recipients are a lie. Probably where his "billions" claim comes from.
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In the social security data, the DOGE boys encountered a number of dates going back to 1875; thus implying that the people were 150 years old. And, in his unique mixture of arrogance and ignorance Musk assumed this was proof of fraud.
But Musk & the DOGE boys don't understand COBOL. If a date is unknown, many COBOL data sets use a zero to indicate missing data. And because the earliest date that COBOL can represent is May 20, 1875, that zero prints out as May 20, 1875. Importantly, every zero date shows that exact same value of May 20, 1875.
Of course only a few people understand enough about COBOL to know why May 20, 1875 keeps showing up. I certainly didn't know until yesterday.
Here's the funny bit: when Musk & the DOGE boys repeatedly encountered that same mysterious date, did they investigate why it kept showing up?? Did they do any checking?? No, they did not. Instead, they assumed fraud and announced it at a presidential press conference🤣😂😝🤣😂
See what I mean about the unique mixture of arrogance and ignorance???
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In the social security data, the DOGE boys encountered a number of dates going back to 1875; thus implying that the people were 150 years old. And, in his unique mixture of arrogance and ignorance Musk assumed this was proof of fraud.
But Musk & the DOGE boys don't understand COBOL. If a date is unknown, many COBOL data sets use a zero to indicate missing data. And because the earliest date that COBOL can represent is May 20, 1875, that zero prints out as May 20, 1875. Importantly, every zero date shows that exact same value of May 20, 1875.
Of course only a few people understand enough about COBOL to know why May 20, 1875 keeps showing up. I certainly didn't know until yesterday.
Here's the funny bit: when Musk & the DOGE boys repeatedly encountered that same mysterious date, did they investigate why it kept showing up?? Did they do any checking?? No, they did not. Instead, they assumed fraud and announced it at a presidential press conference🤣😂😝🤣😂
See what I mean about the unique mixture of arrogance and ignorance???
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PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M
@ElwoodBlues Elon lied? I am shocked! Shocked I say!. 🤣
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@ElwoodBlues Arrogance, ignorance... and sheer laziness.
I'd not known that behaviour of COBOL either but I am not a statistician or programmer. Though I'd certainly want to know why there are so many 150yo pensioners about: I could think one or two were typing errors but numerous similar entries show something odd.
I would not suspect fraud though because logically, I cannot think anyone dishonest enough to distort social-services records for criminal ends would be so foolish as to use such absurdly false ages.
I'd not known that behaviour of COBOL either but I am not a statistician or programmer. Though I'd certainly want to know why there are so many 150yo pensioners about: I could think one or two were typing errors but numerous similar entries show something odd.
I would not suspect fraud though because logically, I cannot think anyone dishonest enough to distort social-services records for criminal ends would be so foolish as to use such absurdly false ages.
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PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M
I am going to give them the benefit of the doubt and say 99%.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
Oh, he proven himself utterly ruthless and heartless, and one of his first actions on acquiring Twitter was to dismiss many of its staff who must have included many moderators, investigators and verifiers, so for him to lie is hardly surprising.
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CountScrofula · 41-45, M
I'm pretty sure its the ransacking the federal government that's the problem more than the lying about doing it.
specman · 51-55, M
ElwoodBlues · M
@specman asks
We have strict data protection and data security laws in this country, and 卐LON, aided and abetted by Tяump, is running roughshod over them. That's why 卐LON has been losing in the courts.
For example,
... block doge investigations?
The opposition is against shifting peoples' data to insecure non-government servers and not knowing where it will spread after that. Remember all the fuss about Hillary's emails on private servers?? This is the same thing magnified by 10,000,000.We have strict data protection and data security laws in this country, and 卐LON, aided and abetted by Tяump, is running roughshod over them. That's why 卐LON has been losing in the courts.
For example,
Federal judge blocks Elon Musk's DOGE from accessing Treasury records after Democratic AGs file lawsuit
[b]https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/federal-judge-blocks-elon-musks-doge-from-accessing-treasury-records-after-democratic-ags-file-lawsuit[/b]6 times judges blocked Trump executive orders
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/6-times-judges-blocked-trump-executive-orders
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JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
@specman How incredible that all the facts that do not support your view are frauds or a conspiracy yet everything you read on the internet is true.
dancingtongue · 80-89, M
We will never know. Because there is no rational plan behind the buzz kill approach being taken. But then that has never been Musk's operating style. Blow it ALL up and hope some of the essential parts remain sufficiently intake to build around.
BohemianBabe · M
@dancingtongue If there is a rationality, it's probably that they want to cut government social programs so that people have to turn to private companies. That means more money for the billionaires that fund Republicans. It's no coincidence that the billionaire-class consolidated around Trump. He's just a warm body to sit in the White House while people like Musk make the policies that enrich the already rich.
GerOttman · 61-69, M
there is no truth, there are no lies. there is only the carefully curated information stream designed to shape your opinion and cloud your mind. nothing you "know" is experiential. there is only delusion and those who choose to be deluded.
Carla · 61-69, F
Everything should be mistrusted. There will be lies involved in everything he says he finds.
KunsanVeteran · M
@Carla It is a given that nothing tRUMP, his family members, or members of his misadministration says is at all credible.
And that all of his actions are criminal.
And that all of his actions are criminal.
thisguy20 · 41-45, M
No way it is less than 90%, probably more like 99.999999%
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
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trollslayer · 46-50, M
@sunsporter1649 This has something to do with Musk/DOGE?
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@trollslayer There does seem to be a lot of totally irrelevant stuff posted like this as if it is somehow part of the discussion. 🤷♀
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@trollslayer @FreddieUK We get it, demonocrats are permitted to lie, it's in The Constitution
BohemianBabe · M
My favorite lie is the ever-growing number of condoms they sent Hamas.
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JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
@Dino11 Omg your already posted this many times!🤣 Do you have an original though in your head , or do you just parrot mindlessly ?
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