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Question for the Trumpeteers:

Why do you care so much about DEI programs?

How do they personally hurt you?

Can you somehow not buy plywood because of Home Depot’s DEI program?

Can you not enlist in the Coast Guard because of a DEI program?

Budweiser not taste the same because of a DEI program?

I’m trying to understand this backlash beyond good old fashioned bigotry…
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SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
I'm not a Trumpeteer or whatever derogatory term you childishly want to apply to people who support Trump, but I will answer your question sincerely.

My wife was sued twice, for doing her job as a Manager. As part of her job, she must document and fire people who don't perform.

This was very stressful for her and myself personally, as we had to prepare and document her actions for the lawyers. It wasn't a concern regarding the case, but the task itself is demoralizing and stressful. I can say unequivocally that she was falsely accused, as both of these people were fired for cause that had nothing to do with their protected identity, and everything to do with their shitty behavior and lack of work performance.

Had these individuals not felt they could something out of the act of suing, even though it was completely without merit, they likely would not have sued.

They both knew they didn't' have a case, they were suing to see if we would settle.

They both sued under protected identities, one for ageism, and one for religious prosecution. Neither was true and it was clearly documented why they were fired.

One was dismissed entirely, one was settled by my wife's company.

She did her job, but her livelihood was threatened due to laws that make it easy and convenient for losers to exploit for their own selfish personal gain.
Vin53 · M
@SumKindaMunster The facts are the facts bud. Your wife and her company lost, meaning they were in the wrong. That's life little man.
Vin53 · M
@SumKindaMunster "need to put my $ where my mouth is."

or what? I run the risk of falling further into contempt of a guy who's avatar is herman munster?

EGADS THE HUMILIATION!
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@Vin53 Oh Vinny, in your zeal to try and get a rise out of me by disparaging my wife, you missed a very simple and critical detail...she didn't lose...one case was dismissed and one was settled.

I am not familiar with how a civil case works there in Canada, but in America that's not a loss.

I showed my wife your comments. She was amused and asked me why I bother to speak to someone like you, she didn't think it was a good use of my time....she's a wise woman....
Jackaloftheazuresand · 26-30, M
because forced diversity is bad and federal condemnation of it serves as the message that people who commit it are not doing something good like they think they are. If we let it go it says we are fine with this disingenuous behavior which allows it to grow into other behaviors. If someone doesn't think these ripples grow then I don't know what to tell them.
Jackaloftheazuresand · 26-30, M
@trollslayer Um no. Liars are bad and a society that tolerates them becomes worse, it creates thieves and murderers if it goes on long enough.

No it doesn't, I'm bi. That's how you'd answer isn't it? Don't hurt me, eh who cares.

I said forced diversity
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@Jackaloftheazuresand how is it forced if a company chooses to have a DEI program?
Jackaloftheazuresand · 26-30, M
@trollslayer DEI itself is the forcing. I'm not saying the company is being forced into having one.
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justanothername · 51-55, M
I know the answer!
I know the answer!
It’s because orange man told them that DEI is bad
ooooh!
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
Why don't you tell us why a system of merit personally hurts you?
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@trollslayer I don't know where you or your wife work, but if you work in corporate America, you would intimately know that they strive to hire supposed oppressed minorities ALL THE TIME, but sometimes they aren't qualified and it should not be controversial to pass those people over and hire the best person for the job that you can.
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@SumKindaMunster i agree. And I have heard stories of lowering the qualifications for jobs, but as long as the candidate meets the requirements for the job, I have no problem with “diversity” hirings because it aims to correct a problem of discrimination that has existed for decades.

And costco didn’t end their DEI program saying “we want our employees to look like our customers”. So for some businesses, it makes business sense.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@trollslayer I don't agree with you on this point:
I have no problem with “diversity” hirings because it aims to correct a problem of discrimination that has existed for decades.

I don't believe that is what is happening in this day and age. I believe its as I said, its to right past wrongs, and we no longer need to do that.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
These people think that there's only so many rights to go around, so if minorities get more rights, they think they'll get fewer.
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
Because MAGAts tend to be white people who fear non-white people with better qualifications, higher intelligence, etc. will take their jobs?
MethDozer · M
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
DEI passes over more qualified candidates, putting people who don't know what they're doing in those jobs instead.
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@NativePortlander1970 how do you know that others are more qualified? By whose standard?

If I am choosing between two applicants to staff my plumbing department, and one has worked as a plumber for 20 years but is a jerk, and the other has worked other customer service jobs for 5 years, who is more qualified? My job description lists knowledge of plumbing and friendly disposition as job requirements.
@trollslayer Enough said
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