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Reality shock - China's carbon emissions doubled in the past decade, while the US went into debt to subsidize renewable energy.



“What if I told you” . . . that we’re trapped in a false reality, and nothing we’ve been told is real? No . .. this isn’t what Morbius told Neo in the Matrix. But close enough. The lie we’re being told is that the Trillions America goes into debt to halt climate change aren’t going to make a difference. Because China is doubling its carbon emissions every 10 years, and now emits as nearly much CO2 as the entire rest of the world combined. Double the CO2 from the US, Europe, and India combined. See link below.

Before you dismiss these findings as BS, consider the source: the uber-respected Global Carbon Project. This is not some self-promoting US government agency, which has a vested interest keeping its ginormous budgets alive.

But how can this be? How can China have doubled CO2 over the decade? They’re flooding the internet with pictures of giant wind turbines.

Um . . . yes, they are. But if you google “air pollution in China”, you can see the emissions in real time. China continues to open coal fired electric plants at a record pace. Because, you know, they want to sell us Chinese made EVs. Steel. HDTVs. Clothing. Anything made out of plastic. Check your Amazon shopping cart. Where do your purchases come from, and what are they made of? Wind turbines aren’t being used to make steel. Or China’s military preparations to invade Taiwan. Or vast, empty Mongolian factory cities, which may never be completed.

We’re all gonna die, and there’s nothing we can do. As long as China (and India) continue to expand their fossil fuel use exponentially, there aren’t enough places in America to put solar panels and wind farms to make a difference. In case you missed it, India is now the primary buyer of Russian oil and coal. You can see their cargo ships jockeying for position in the port of Mumbai, with satellite photos.

The real problem is NOT America’s insatiable demand for new cars, 75 inch televisions, smart phones, and designer athletic footwear. It’s the aspirations of the REST of the world to live exactly like we do. THAT’s why we’re all gonna die. Everyone is inevitably going to have cars, and lots of electronic gear, and a ginormous wardrobe. China simply wants to sell them all that stuff.

I’m just sayin’ . . .

Amid Earth's heat records, scientists report another bump upward in annual carbon emissions | AP News
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
So America should be permitted to continue consuming without restrictions, but the rest of the world must curb their aspirations? That is colonial arrogance at its most extreme.

Climate change is a global issue that must be addressed in global terms, not inward looking Trumpian neo-nationalism. No doubt CO2 emited on American soil will begin to rise in line with any increase in manufacturing activity. Perhaps that will make you happy.

China emits loads because it produces on behalf of the rest of the world. They also have some of the biggest and most ambitious hydro and wind electricity projects.

Think.globally, act locally.
pdockal · 56-60, M
@SunshineGirl

Your missing the whole point of the post

You just bash USA when you can
How childish
How uneducated
TexChik · F
@SunshineGirl Climate change is a lib construct to siphon billions into their own pockets. Of the 70 world disaster predictions they have made since the 50s, NONE have ever come true...not even close. Its a lie.
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@SunshineGirl that is the EXACT OPPOSITE of what's in my post.

You get a zero in today's assignment, sunshine girl.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
Not that is makes Chinas actions any better.. But America has been driving itself deeper into debt for far less worthy causes for decades, like tax cuts for rich and new Supercarriers..So its a bit precious to single out the one thing with a long term payoff.😷
China's economy is also expanding at on average double that of the US.

They also have Billions of people, not 350 million.

And sure there is some increases but unlike the US they are actually trying to do something about it in a serious way.

They have already beat the US in the EV race. The US had to slap a 100% tariff on Chinese cars because they cannot compete.
@SusanInFlorida They have made it very clear for years they do so with the intention of it being a temporary measure to keep things going till they can switch to something else. They have also shut down many coal fire plants and air quality in places like Beijing have drastically improved a a result.

They are not like the GOP who want to drag the US kicking and screaming to a permanent dependence on 17th century technology because George Soros will brainwash you through wind turbines or whatever is the latest nonsense.

One province in China has more high speed rail than the entire USA.

Meanwhile the US is looking for excuses to justify their country turning into a 3rd world nation.
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow if you tell a lie often enough, people will believe it.

"coal plants are just until we figure out how to build more windmills"

"the $35 trillion national debt is not a problem"

"there is no housing affordability crisis in america"

"we need all 800+ military bases around the world"

I can keep doing this all day.
@SusanInFlorida Nice false equivalences.

And the statement that the coal plants are temporary are not lies. It has been official policy and been born out since the 2000s.

Your ignorance doesn't make something a lie.

The difference is the US wants to go back to 1700s technology for energy to gaslight Republican voters in WV that coal is going to make a come back and has a future.
That is the lie. Buying votes with false hope.
Tastyfrzz · 61-69, M
I will dead soon. Thank goodness.
swirlie · 31-35, F
Very informative post! I enjoyed reading the data you presented.

I did a bit of research on my own to see where Canada stands on this issue of coal and carbon footprints. The first thing I learned was that Canada as a nation consumes more maple syrup annually than it consumes by burning coal. I thought that was an amazing wakeup call to all Canadians to stop consuming so damn much maple syrup!

And did you know that once a Canadian Sugar Maple tree is tapped for maple sap that the tree itself is no longer any good for hardwood lumber? The only maple trees that are used for hardwood lumber in Canada are trees that were never tapped to extract maple sap which is used for maple syrup production.

Of particular note is the fact that about 15 years ago, Canada slowly began eliminating close to 95% of all coal-fired electricity generating plants across Canada and has eliminated 100% of all coal-fired steel manufacturing plants in Canada which have transitioned to natural gas from coal.

What I found odd however, was that Canada exports 95% of it's coal reserves to Asia and India while using only .5% of it's coal reserves for it's own use... that's correct, "point five percent".

What blew me away however, was that China is #1 on the list for being the top coal consumer in the world, followed at #2 spot by India and followed at #3 spot by the USA!

China consumes 50% of all coal burnt in the world while the USA consumes 8.5% of the total coal burnt in the world!

Way down at the #19 spot is Canada which consumes a whopping .5% of all coal burnt in the world annually.

Now, I don't feel so guilty about eating so much maple syrup!
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@swirlie they can't use the "tapped" trees because the steel pipes they hammer in aren't easily removed. they just leave them in. and if they go to the sawmill, the machinery gets damaged.
swirlie · 31-35, F
@SusanInFlorida
That is totally wrong, not even close, just like most of the stuff you post on SW.

The steel spigots are easily removed but the act of boring into a tree to insert a spigot in the first place is what degrades the wood on the inside, thereby preventing the tree from being sold as Grade 'A' lumber. That tree can only be turned into framing lumber, like 2x4's and rough-cut lumber.

 
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