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If most people in a particular state believe that abortion is immoral and should be prohibited or limited, isn't that democracy?
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Patriot96 · 56-60, C
Notice how those advocating abortion were not aborted. Or were they?
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@Patriot96 Notice how those advocating freedom of choice want to be the ones choosing for others without accepting and responsibility for the choice?😷
4meAndyou · F
YES!!! However, the far left Progressives currently running for President and Vice President don't WANT democracy. We are not supposed to GIVEN a choice by their all powerful centrist government, which will take over and dictate how we must all live...and think.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
Actually, Yes.. Its just not freedom.. We can argue at how that decision was reached as well. But democracy is about the majority ruling, no matter how wrong they are..😷
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@Heartlander Personally I agree with you. Any "law" should be based on the idea of harm or potential harm or damage to another. And a living person takes precedent over a bunch of cells that one day may be a baby. But picking you your example of the 3am red light. If I give youn that freedom, you have to accert the responsinbility that IF harm or damage occures, you will be liable for an equal amount of damage under the law. If you run the light and you kill someone, your life is forfeit. Its the only way to balance those scales and they have to be in balance. You HAVE to understand the possible risk to you of what you do to others,.😷
@samueltyler2 Yes, it's complicated. But it is a complicated issue with pros and cons on both sides, or as both sides see it.

I'm personally on both sides in that I respect both sides of the issue, so I see the current resolution as the only logical accommodation for both sides; until one side of the issue convinces the other side to get together and pass a constitutional amendment.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@Heartlander But, having different rules in different states makes it potentially more difficult. As a former physician, working shifts in the Emergency Room, if a young pregnant woman came in, i would refer her to OB/GYN. If they felt she was aborting and need to have a D&C, they would do it. If, under the new situation, the woman would need to go to another state, and my state had the regressive rules in it, I could potentially be prosecuted just for referring to OB/GYN if they referred her to another state. If you read Project 2025, it even calls for banning the teaching of students/residents how to even do abortions, which is really just a D & C.
If you don't wan't an abortion, don't get one. Simple as that.
No. Most people vote to limit harm in educated societies.
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@Heartlander 🤷‍♂ What makes you think I'm a democrat? I'm under the assumption, that the electoral college doesn't care who wins the popular vote, they will vote for whomever pays them the most.
@independentone Members of the electoral college only respect the mandate of the people they represent. We are the "United" states, not the "Merged" or "Blended" states. We don't agree on everything.
@Heartlander that is the way it is supposed to work, but the electoral college is so corrupt, it needs to be scrapped and popular vote should be how the countries leaders are chosen.
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CorvusBlackthorne · 100+, M
If my religion prevents me from consuming pork, should I be permitted to pass legislation which prevents you from doing so?
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