ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
You mean the genetic male who the Olympics changed their rules for to be woke? Raises some interesting questions about just how to make competition fair.
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BohemianBabe · M
@Thinkerbell
Whenever you get mad like this, it's because you know I'm right. So I'm sure the next part is going to be a bad faith argument.
Yup, there we go. 😆
The IRA, as in the org that actually did the testing, neither claimed nor presented evidence of any of this. The only person saying this is Kremlev, who is not involved in testing, he's just the owner of the fed.
Now I'm sure at some point the IRA will follow suit, because it's a corrupt org, but as of now, this claim is only being made by Kremlev.
By the way, the reason the Republicans got their cheeks clapped in the midterms is because this obsession with other people's genitals is seen as creepy by most people. The nazi-ass transphobia isn't a winning issue.
So as your campaign manager, I urge you to keep it up. Keep masking your chaser thoughts as transphobia, you weirdo, and let's see how y'all do in November. 😎
You're wrong, as usual
Whenever you get mad like this, it's because you know I'm right. So I'm sure the next part is going to be a bad faith argument.
"International Boxing Association Russian president, Umar Kremlev, claimed that DNA test results showed the two athletes have XY chromosomes, but the results were never published."
Yup, there we go. 😆
The IRA, as in the org that actually did the testing, neither claimed nor presented evidence of any of this. The only person saying this is Kremlev, who is not involved in testing, he's just the owner of the fed.
Now I'm sure at some point the IRA will follow suit, because it's a corrupt org, but as of now, this claim is only being made by Kremlev.
By the way, the reason the Republicans got their cheeks clapped in the midterms is because this obsession with other people's genitals is seen as creepy by most people. The nazi-ass transphobia isn't a winning issue.
So as your campaign manager, I urge you to keep it up. Keep masking your chaser thoughts as transphobia, you weirdo, and let's see how y'all do in November. 😎
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@BohemianBabe
The chances of you being right about anything are slim to zero, Boo-Boo, and this instance is no exception. 😂😂😂
Oh of course, Boo-Boo; what would the head of the IBC know? 😂😂😂
Let's assume the IBC and IRA are corrupt, Boo-Boo.
Why didn't the IOC do its own testing and prove that the athletes in question are indeed XX, or release the results if they did?
That way, the IOC would clear the athletes' names, prove the IBC is corrupt and put the lie to gestures by other athletes such as the ones pictured below:
News flash, Boo-Boo:
The Democrats LOST control of the House in the midterms. The reason they didn't lose by a much larger margin had nothing to do with transgender politics, but because of the overturning of Roe v. Wade shortly before the election. If the Supreme Court had been as politicized as the anti-Trump lawfare judges, they would have waited until after the election to render that decision.
"it's because you know I'm right."
The chances of you being right about anything are slim to zero, Boo-Boo, and this instance is no exception. 😂😂😂
" The only person saying this is Kremlev, who is not involved in testing, he's just the owner of the fed."
Oh of course, Boo-Boo; what would the head of the IBC know? 😂😂😂
"Now I'm sure at some point the IRA will follow suit, because it's a corrupt org, but as of now, this claim is only being made by Kremlev."
Let's assume the IBC and IRA are corrupt, Boo-Boo.
Why didn't the IOC do its own testing and prove that the athletes in question are indeed XX, or release the results if they did?
That way, the IOC would clear the athletes' names, prove the IBC is corrupt and put the lie to gestures by other athletes such as the ones pictured below:
"By the way, the reason the Republicans got their cheeks clapped in the midterms is because this obsession with other people's genitals is seen as creepy by most people."
News flash, Boo-Boo:
The Democrats LOST control of the House in the midterms. The reason they didn't lose by a much larger margin had nothing to do with transgender politics, but because of the overturning of Roe v. Wade shortly before the election. If the Supreme Court had been as politicized as the anti-Trump lawfare judges, they would have waited until after the election to render that decision.
BohemianBabe · M
@Thinkerbell
Are you still mad that you were wrong about a trans man boxer beating cis men?
You skipped over every point I made. Which is fine, anyone else can read what I said.
The IOC did do its own testing according to the same testing they do for everyone. They shouldn't start doing specialized testing on individuals just because some crank, who won't even release the testing to back up his claims, said that some chick is a man or whatever.
Yes, the ruling party always loses the House. That was expected to happen. What wasn't expected to happen is how many seats the Republicans failed to win. Most Republicans and right-wing pundits admitted that it was an especially bad showing.
The overturning of Roe mattered, so did Trump and the insurrection. Republicans who weren't election-deniers tended to do better in the midterms.
However, the only thing Republicans had to counteract all of that was, ok, but trans people are kinda gross, right? RIGHT?!
So by all means, keep up the fetishistic weirdo lying about trans people. I'm positive it will help to usher in the Fourth Reich.
The chances of you being right about anything are slim to zero
Are you still mad that you were wrong about a trans man boxer beating cis men?
what would the head of the IBC know?
You skipped over every point I made. Which is fine, anyone else can read what I said.
Why didn't the IOC do its own testing and prove that the athletes in question are indeed XX, or release the results if they did?
The IOC did do its own testing according to the same testing they do for everyone. They shouldn't start doing specialized testing on individuals just because some crank, who won't even release the testing to back up his claims, said that some chick is a man or whatever.
The Democrats LOST control of the House in the midterms. The reason they didn't lose by a much larger margin had nothing to do with transgender politics, but because of the overturning of Roe v. Wade shortly before the election.
Yes, the ruling party always loses the House. That was expected to happen. What wasn't expected to happen is how many seats the Republicans failed to win. Most Republicans and right-wing pundits admitted that it was an especially bad showing.
The overturning of Roe mattered, so did Trump and the insurrection. Republicans who weren't election-deniers tended to do better in the midterms.
However, the only thing Republicans had to counteract all of that was, ok, but trans people are kinda gross, right? RIGHT?!
So by all means, keep up the fetishistic weirdo lying about trans people. I'm positive it will help to usher in the Fourth Reich.
If the Supreme Court had been as politicized as the anti-Trump lawfare judges, they would have waited until after the election to render that decision.
GeniUs · 56-60, M
So you're saying if you are incorrectly assigned the wrong gender at birth you have to remain that way?
Not right in the head if true.
Not right in the head if true.
sarabee1995 · 26-30, F
This is more complicated than either side is pretending. And it highlights the issues inherent in someone being "assigned" a gender.
Elessar · 31-35, M
@sarabee1995 I disagree with the two sides thing, I agree with the assignment problem.
The point of my post here is highlighting that the vision saying there's only two genders, and that one's gender depends solely on what's between one's legs that is strongly pushed by the right, Rowling, et al. isn't congruent with reality, and in this specific instance it came to bite them (I'll argue, if they didn't believe it was a MTF athlete before realizing she was actually a biological intersex woman, they'd all have been quiet).
The point of my post here is highlighting that the vision saying there's only two genders, and that one's gender depends solely on what's between one's legs that is strongly pushed by the right, Rowling, et al. isn't congruent with reality, and in this specific instance it came to bite them (I'll argue, if they didn't believe it was a MTF athlete before realizing she was actually a biological intersex woman, they'd all have been quiet).
Jexie · 26-30, F
From what I read she's intersex. There's a bit of confusion because people are assuming she's transgender. She has XY chromosomes but female genitalia (both sexes have female phenotype before sexual differentiation) because of problems during development, even tho she was supposed to develop into a male. I think it's a grey area but they're saying she has high testosterone levels so it can raise questions.
Jexie · 26-30, F
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow I can only go off of what they're saying
Algeria's Khelif, and Taiwan double world champion Lin Yu-ting, were cleared to compete in Paris despite being disqualified at the 2023 World Championships after failing IBA eligibility rules that prevent athletes with male XY chromosomes competing in women's events.
WBC women's world featherweight champion Skye Nicolson pointed out that Khelif and Lin had both been beaten by women several times during their careers and said they "do not deserve this mistreatment".
"I've actually fought and sparred both of the girls," the Australian said in an Instagram post.
"They have grown up as girls, as females, as women. They have competed as women the whole time. These are not naturally born men who have decided to call themselves women or identify as women to fight women in the Olympics.
Some sports have limited the levels of testosterone allowed for athletes competing in women's competition, while others ban everyone who has been through male puberty.
Differences of Sexual Disorder (DSD) are a group of rare conditions involving genes, hormones and reproductive organs. Some people with DSDs are raised as female but have XY sex chromosomes and blood testosterone levels in the male range.
The IOC said the rules of eligibility were based on those of the Tokyo Games in 2021 and could not be changed during a competition.
Mind you, the athlete herself hasn't admitted to anything. There needs to be more transparency but it's obvious based off all this.WBC women's world featherweight champion Skye Nicolson pointed out that Khelif and Lin had both been beaten by women several times during their careers and said they "do not deserve this mistreatment".
"I've actually fought and sparred both of the girls," the Australian said in an Instagram post.
"They have grown up as girls, as females, as women. They have competed as women the whole time. These are not naturally born men who have decided to call themselves women or identify as women to fight women in the Olympics.
Some sports have limited the levels of testosterone allowed for athletes competing in women's competition, while others ban everyone who has been through male puberty.
Differences of Sexual Disorder (DSD) are a group of rare conditions involving genes, hormones and reproductive organs. Some people with DSDs are raised as female but have XY sex chromosomes and blood testosterone levels in the male range.
The IOC said the rules of eligibility were based on those of the Tokyo Games in 2021 and could not be changed during a competition.
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SW-User
So you surrender. Thanks for proving my point: the "you're the gender you're assigned at birth" stance is indefensible here.
Hehe who are you arguing with here? Whoever it is has blocked me, but it sounds like you completely owned them.
Elessar · 31-35, M
@SW-User Athrilla
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
How can one claim to be in favor of women’s rights and allow that to occur ?
Elessar · 31-35, M
@AthrillatheHunt So you surrender. Thanks for proving my point: the "you're the gender you're assigned at birth" stance is indefensible here.
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Elessar · 31-35, M
@sunsporter1649 She's no trans, dude. A born woman, competing as a woman. Isn't that exactly what you wanted?
Northwest · M
She's Algerian and representing Algeria at the Olympics. Homosexuality and trans is illegal in Algeria, and subject to some serious criminal penalties.
So, there's a lot of confusion here. She's intersex, but the IOC decide that she failed the gender test, so they to settle this, but it's not about woke'ism, whatever that is.
So, there's a lot of confusion here. She's intersex, but the IOC decide that she failed the gender test, so they to settle this, but it's not about woke'ism, whatever that is.
How do people still not understand intersex? 🤦
basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M
JK Rowling and the Beloved Childhood Books Ruined that's the Only Good Work She's Ever Written.
PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M
@basilfawlty89 I find it perversely amusing that she somehow managed to write a book series full of better people than her.
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Elessar · 31-35, M
@Burnley123 It does, but in this instance the athlete is a biological woman, competing in the category the TERFs until the last few days would've wanted her to compete (i.e. the gender assigned at birth).
Elessar · 31-35, M
@Burnley123 Also I'm eager to see how long it'll take now to our boxer to start getting invited to Mediaset programmes, or even, to become a League MEP 🥴
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Elessar · 31-35, M
@NoThanksLeon I don't compete in the Olympic games dude. Nor I'm the one voting to suppress women's right, so you should know better than me.
NoThanksLeon · M
@Elessar
What sick thrill does it give YOU to physically hurt women?
so you should know better than me.
It is YOU who is snickering and approving of violence against women. So I ask again, What sick thrill does it give YOU to physically hurt women?
Elessar · 31-35, M
@NoThanksLeon I'm not. I'm just the one asking why the "you're the gender you're assigned at birth" folk suddenly have a problem with a woman beating another woman in a women competition?
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edit: *suddenly crickets* 🦗😁
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Elessar · 31-35, M
@ChipmunkErnie "Also", not "only". With the exception of the chromosome and testosterone levels this athlete is absolutely, in all the possible metrics, a woman. She's also lost to other women before, for saying, she's got no invincibility or any drastic advantages.
CountScrofula · 41-45, M
@ChipmunkErnie You ever look at your chromosomes?
You could be intersex without ever realizing it. It's an insane thing to fixate on and way more common than you would imagine.
You could be intersex without ever realizing it. It's an insane thing to fixate on and way more common than you would imagine.
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
@CountScrofula Nope, no reason to -- I'm not trying to compete in international athletics.