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What will California do with all the Homeless people?

Now that Newsom has allowed cities to take action, what will they do with 200,000 homeless
people?
It would be nice if they, ya know, gave them homes.
DogMan · 61-69, M
@BohemianBabe Yes, things were bad in 2020. Why was that? 🤔 Do you think it had
anything to do with Covid? Noooo, it must have been Trumps fault. 🤣

Like I always say, Covid was one of the best gifts, Democrats ever received.

They owe the Chinese big time.
chrisCA · M
@BohemianBabe They need to address the root causes of homelessness. Two of which are mental illness and addictions.
@chrisCA Yes, there are a lot of homeless people who are homeless purely for economic reasons, but there are also a lot who are mentally ill or suffering from addiction. It's definitely a systemic issue. But as usual, the Right doesn't want to invest in housing, rehab centers, or healthcare. They just want to lock the homeless up.
DogMan · 61-69, M
Having worked with homeless people years ago, not as an advocate, but as a co-worker,
I have some knowledge that most do not have. I got to know them as equals, we also
drank beer together on Fridays after getting paid. These homeless had a job long enough to
save a little money and quit their job, in order to exist without responsibility.

I also would pick up the street people for my weekend job. These folks
were different, they would NEVER take a real job where they had to go in everyday.

Many would see the work I had for them and say NO! They would sit all day while
the rest of us worked. I would not pay them, but I did feed them lunch. FYI I only
made 1.50 more an hour then they did, as the supervisor and transporter.

The main take-away is the fact that most homeless are free spirits. They do not want
to be trapped by the confines of responsibility. This is also why programs never
seem to work for the majority of them. You can give them everything, but the minute
you ask for them to help with anything, you will get pushback, as they are not about
to be told what to do, by anyone.

Most will take what you are giving, but will NOT give anything in return, even
if it is in their best interest.

There are some homeless that would receive help well, but they are a small %.

The other groups are the ones escaping the law, whether for a crime, or something
like running from child support. An unskilled guy with 5 unwanted children, will
never be able to work, without his whole paycheck going to child support.
Nitedoc · 51-55, M
@DogMan That's the way I see it too. I don't have a good solution.
DogMan · 61-69, M
@Nitedoc I really don't have a solution either. Throwing money at the problem will not work
Nitedoc · 51-55, M
@DogMan I know.
GlitterEater · 36-40, F
Maybe we can use all the empty homes that are just sheltering dust
MethDozer · M
@GlitterEater hey, those are being used for very important purposes. How else are Investors and banks supposed to hedge against inflation and lower property costs?
tenente · 100+, M
@GlitterEater
Maybe we can use all the empty homes that are just sheltering dust
but, where will all the police take naps between removing homeless encampments? /s
badminton · 61-69, MVIP
The history of homelessness in America is an interesting study. There have been several periods of widespread homelessness in our history. It usually was associated with an economic recession or a change in technology. But it seldom lasted more than a couple of years.

For example, when railroads in the 1850s came into use many bargemen who used to load riverboats were out of a job. Many became homeless for a year or two. Then they found work with the new railroads and were housed again.

Our current period of homelessness started with Reagan in the 1980's. This homeless period has lasted much longer than any previous such period in American, close to 40 years. I think part of it is failure to address the root causes and reverse Reaganite policies. Also, the street drugs are much stronger, meth and fentanyl. they have reduced homeless people to such an extend they can't work. The solution for that is free, mandatory drug detox.
DogMan · 61-69, M
@badminton It's ridicules to blame Reagan. Did Reagan increase the welfare role?

Did Reagan say NO when we said all welfare recipients should be drug free?

The thing is, Welfare folks are NOT the homeless, some end up homeless due to
their own actions. Most homeless are there by choice, not all most most,

I explained above, some of the mentalities, and attitudes.
Illyria · M
Oooh keep em coming!

😂

MethDozer · M
@NoThanksLeon What's that?
Illyria · M
@NoThanksLeon You really are pissed that Biden has gone, aren't you?😂😂
@Illyria Why would you say that? Are you trying to divert the topic from your PHAET self by putting me on the defensive? It won't work, Melz.
Invite them to a free buffet, promise them food and shelter, and have them commit to voting Democrat.
Then forget about them in December 2024.
When Xi came for a visit and SF was made to look good; where did the people there get moved to?
carpediem · 61-69, M
He's gaslighting. I don't believe they are suddenly going to start tearing down encampments.
pedrohedgerow · 61-69, M
Eventually,given enough time and power,use them as protein.
tenente · 100+, M
@pedrohedgerow soylent green vibes 😂
IM5688 · 61-69, M
Do what they do best. Ship them to other states.
akindheart · 61-69, F
they will move to AZ like the rest of the citizens of that state is doing.
They need to lower rent, fix it.
Nitedoc · 51-55, M
@Spoiledbrat It's much more complicated than that.
@Nitedoc I'm sure it is but it's better than moving homeless people around and paying for housing.
Perhaps this. Who
knows?
DogMan · 61-69, M
@soar2newhighs I really hope this will help people. the cost of the building is 600k
per unit. It will eventually house 700 people, which is about 0.5% of the homeless
in California. If they vet them properly, and pick the people that want to help
themselves, this could work.
4meAndyou · F
They haven't publicized their plans. They have just told the homeless in the encampments in public parks that they have TWO DAYS to move.
MasterLee · 56-60, M
Send them to Martha's vineyard
pancakeslam · 41-45, M
the ones who are cannot function or are ill need to be institutionalized in a caring environment. the rest of them need to get whatever job is available and counseling. if I need a job I would find one even if I have to move cross country to find affordable housing.
pedrohedgerow · 61-69, M
@pancakeslam yeah ok...but if that dont work THEN can we eat them...geez ;)
pancakeslam · 41-45, M
@pedrohedgerow
pedrohedgerow · 61-69, M
@pancakeslam Man,Good Bless,I just believe we will sink as low as the lowest low,Good Bless.
tenente · 100+, M
in this case it's too bad the government isn't allowed to build buildings or give people money. i guess it's not 'cruel and unusual punishment' if the victims aren't considered by the government as 'people'(?) take that, most vulnerable people imaginable!!! /s
DogMan · 61-69, M
@tenente If we give them housing, they will also expect food. along with that they will
require maid services, landscaping services, and constant upkeep, as they will destroy
it in short order. 90% of the homeless will not do what would be expected of them to
maintain a home, or decent place to live.

But believe me, they would love it for a while, until someone tried to tell them that they
also have responsibilities, if they want to live there.

 
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