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Boy, have I got a conspiracy for you!

Novembers US elections will be the last. (Thats not new) If Trump wins, the takeover of Trump at the head of the Project 2025 team will be swift and efficient, in total contrast to his 2016 victory,which he botched horribly. (This is not new) If he loses he will challenge the result and call out the MAGA morons again and this time those Militia groups will be in place and coordinated ready to occupy and hold strategic offices.. (Thats not new) And the Democrats have assisted behind the scenes, having been funded by the same sources as the right. to put up the weakest possible candidate to oppose the republican candidate, no matter who it is, by propping up Biden and giving the Right as much legitimacy as possible.. But dont panic folks. Trump wont be running anything. That will be Steve Bannon, Steven Miller and the Project 2025 people. Nothing to see here. Move along..
Ynotisay · M
Yeah. The Democrats have assisted behind the scenes. That's what it is. Because it's in their best interest, right?
Side note. The 'weakest possible candidate' has had a REMARKABLY effective administration.
Things like that actually matter to some.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@Ynotisay I agree with you. But he still seems feeble and to a lot of voters that matters...😷
Ynotisay · M
@whowasthatmaskedman Well there you go. People and their feeeeelings. It drives the train. Usually in to a ditch.
zonavar68 · 56-60, M
The so-called Heritage Foundation have obviously learnt lots of hard lessons from when Trump was president before. The whole thing was a complete botch because Trump in his typical bully-boy ways flouted the law from the instant he was 'confirmed' as the next president after the electoral college votes were validated.

Does not mean Trump's 'Low IQ Anon' gang of domestic terrorist supporters should be permitted to again have control over the 'shadow' executive of the US government though...

Trump thinks he just has to pump out neo-czarist EO after EO after EO to force his ways into all facets of US government, military and civilian life in the USA and by inference the rest of the world.

His mob act just like they are a band of sovereign citizens to which the law does not apply.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@zonavar68 The Republican establishment were not prepared for him to win last time. Now the Party is "owned" by Trump and the Heritage Foudation and the rest of project 2025. have a publicly available plan to convert the government very quickly once in power, so they neuter the courts and the Constitution. All they need is that opening and the word to go. And I am not even sure that it really matter too much to anyone outside America..😷
Greyjedi · M
You are correct if republicans refuse to act like adults, toddlers with guns will destroy America. You are right that they have some of the same financial backing, but unlike republicans who have completely caved to the whims of the plutocracy; democrats have have fought to have decent candidates though none of their best have be elected.
Heartlander · 80-89, M
Based on Democrat attempts to sabotage Trump with their Russia collusion false evidence I’m far more fearful of Democrats than anyone. Democrats are the party of slavery, the party of Jim Crow, the party of segregation, the party of the Confederacy, the party of the trail of tears. The government within a government. Democrats represent Democrats, not the American people.
Heartlander · 80-89, M
@SandWitch

im not a Republican. Im an independent. What I like most about Republicans is that they aren't Democrats.

And no, the two parties didn't flip flop. Go see how many Democrats signed the Southern Manifesto declaring desegregation as immoral and see what happened to them afterwards. Bill Clinton even pinned the medal of freedom on one of them.
SandWitch · 26-30, F
@Heartlander
No, no one said the two parties flip-flopped. What I said was the two parties reversed their positions, meaning they reversed their political agenda to whom they would now serve to better their own political high ground.

If you were a true Independent, you would not be speaking with the veracity of a hard-right Republican.
Heartlander · 80-89, M
@SandWitch

Not so. Anti-Democrats and Republicans are not one and the same. Republicans greatest virtue is that they are not Democrats. Democrats are a government within a government.

The left didn't swap lanes, didn't flip flop. Biden spelled it out, 'if you are black and don't vote Democrat you are not black". Sorry, that's too much like Germans that dfdnt Heil Hitler weren't real Germans.
James25 · 61-69, M
Your conspiracy theory is not that far fetched. In its premise it is correct. Both Republicans and Democrats have the same goal but just go about it differently. Democrats tend to be a little more sneaky whereas Republicans are more blunt. But the agenda is the same. Power money and influence.
Madmonk · M
You had me up until Steve Bannon


These days it’s hard to discern who the Antichrist will be. Both seem to fit
ninalanyon · 61-69, T
How is one to tell that you are joking? Current US (and other places) politics have gone beyond satire.
Tenshi · 22-25
can someone please change me? I messed my pants
Thodsis · 51-55, M
It's time to invest in tin-foil manufacturers...
SandWitch · 26-30, F
Everything you say makes sense in this post, only because none of this could be dreamt up by Trump himself. You understand that Trump is not a political strategist, right?

Who is however, is Steve Bannon. The good thing about Steve Bannon being Donald's inner voice is that Steve has been incarcerated for about a week now and will remain so for at least the next 18 months. Unless Steve left Donald a 'To Do' list before the cops carted Steve away from his home in a van last week, Donald might have to think for himself for a change.
SandWitch · 26-30, F
@whowasthatmaskedman
But you're assuming that Americans take the time to study who they're competently voting for in the first place before making it compulsory for everyone to vote. Making something compulsory doesn't guarantee any different result than leaving things just as they are.

There were a dozen books written on Donald J. Trump dating back to the 1980's which clearly show the man is a narcissistic sociopath, not to forget mentioning being wholly dependent on his father Fred Trump for steady employment for all of Donald's adult life. Despite those books being readily available, Americans still voted for a con man and fraud artist as their President.

So, even if every American went out and voted, do you really think it would make any difference to the outcome we've learned to expect from Americans, if they remain ignorant of who it is they are actually voting for, or not voting for?
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@SandWitch You have a point.. But I did specify making only one change and the one thing you can count on most people to do is vote in their own interest. Take money out of their pocket and see how that works..No matter how uneducated they are, they feel it in the hip pocket. But I did start my saying America really does need to be treated as a Protectorate of the UN for a while. Partly because of the immaturity of the voters. And partly to get the real power out of rifle range. 😷
SandWitch · 26-30, F
@whowasthatmaskedman

Good point, yes you did specify those points mentioned for sure. So then, a Protectorate of the UN would be a state that is controlled and protected by another state. In this case, the USA would be controlled by the UN and protected as well under the collective umbrella of the UN, if I understand you correctly.

Partly because of the immaturity of the voters. And partly to get the real power out of rifle range.

Yes, the immaturity of the American voters must be addressed without question while protecting the family assets from it's own misguided use of itself. Brilliant.
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whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@BohemianBabe The world is moving to the Right in many places. But I suspect there will be a power vacuum quite soon if America fails, as it will if Trump gets back in. Its complicated and has to do with the foreign debt. But China will try to play Fairy Godmother to a number of nations to establish itself..😷
@whowasthatmaskedman Keep in mind Trump is in heavy amounts of debt, much of it to companies in Russia and China. Plus, he's just very enamored with dictators, since that's what he wants to be. This is why all of the authoritarian governments want Trump back.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@BohemianBabe Yes.. In fact it is possible that he holds negative equity in many of his properties. There is a group of "confidential" loans with unassigned ownership and unspecified amounts buried in his books that will have to come out when his criminal fraud trial eventually comes to court..The only reason to bury those is because it would harm his position if it was known he owed that much to those particular people..😷
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whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@ron122 Every bit as much as you believe there was massive voter fraud at the last election..😷
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whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@MarmeeMarch Its an old hobby actually. It used to be that when America sneezed, the world caught cold. Now America is the fat old man farting and wheezing in his recliner and hurling abuse at everyone, while the family waits in the next room hoping the cops dont look too hard for the cause of death..😷
In fact, dont listen to me: And dont listen to the commentator in this clip. Listen to the CEOs of every fortune 500 company and a bunch of leading economists mentioned in this clip.. Because right now I have no faith that the actual outcome of the voting in November will have any connection to the result for America. And as I have often said, I dont give a damn about the ideology. I just look at the numbers...
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