@helenS Why are many in Israel demanding Netanyahu resign?
The family members of the hostages are very angry with him.

Hamas BAD. Netanyahu BAD.

There is 40 mins of it available here.

@helenS [media=https://youtu.be/5hUn3ndO-MU]

@JSul3 Bad memory? I already commented on Bibi's miserable role in the context of the October pogroms, and I hope Israel will get rid of this man as soon as Hamas is defeated.
That was yesterday, and it was a reply to you.
Regarding the families of the hostages: they have become the victims of a horrible crime, and I understand their personal feelings. But personal feelings and politics are different things. Likewise, when a woman has been raped and killed you should not let her father decide what to do with the perpetrator.

@GerOttman the historical context goes farther back. But you can't! You're a settler.

@Roundandroundwego histo/contextoirically I go back to about the Munich Olympics, the 2nd one! and I didn't settle, I got her pregnant and by dumb luck and some hard work it paid off... why don't you go eat a baby or something, that always seems to calm people like you down.

@GerOttman Have you watched this yet? According to the actual operatives sent out to take care of the Black September members who carried out Munich '72, said it was extremely accurate.
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@IllThinkOfSomething One of Hamas' core tenets is the death of every Jew in the world. But I guess that's not genocidal because they haven't succeeded yet?

@LeopoldBloom Children are not Hamas.

@IllThinkOfSomething they aren't? Then why are they strapped with bombs?

Seems as though this jackass is the Nazi. @PatKirby

@SumKindaMunster So are you rooting for Hamas? We all know your opinion of Israel.

@LeopoldBloom Shut up Bloom. Why does everything have to be binary in your world? I support a cease fire and negotiations, I'm not "rooting" for one side or another like a simple child.

@helenS But the Gaza Strip is hell on Earth.

@sunriselover Perfect example of self-inflicted misery. Gaza could be nothing short of a paradise. I mean it's a part of the Mediterranean coast, right? I can imagine huge hotels, casinos, and expensive ice cream parlors.
But hey, why would a young Palestinian guy work as a hotel bellboy when he can play martyr?

@helenS Tell the fatherless children that.

@MasterLee displaced?

@samueltyler2 yes

@wildbill83

How about their stooge Yemen first, then hand over the keys to the parking lot to the Saudi family? Just to be sure.

@JSul3 It's not like the Palestinians loved Israel before the war. Realistically, the hatred couldn't be any worse no matter what Israel does.

@LeopoldBloom Based on Bibi's policies, it is easy to understand the hatred.
Many in Israel hate Netanyahu. They want an end to the bloodshed.

@AthrillatheHunt [quote]I like how you used the term “final solution”. You got that from the Nazis yes ?[/quote]

Chances are he got that term directly from the genocidal Zionists who are dedicated to purge the levant of all non-Jews before the world ends in the year 6000, just 218 years from now.

[b][c=BF0000]Even today I am willing to volunteer to do the dirty work for Israel, to kill as many Arabs as necessary, to deport them, to expel and burn them, to have everyone hate us.
Ariel Sharon

It is the duty of Israeli leaders to explain to public opinion, clearly and courageously, a certain number of facts that are forgotten with time. The first of these is that there is no Zionism, colonialization, or Jewish State without the eviction of the Arabs and the expropriation of their lands.
Ariel Sharon

We must do everything to ensure they [the Palestinians] never do return. The old will die and the young will forget,
David Ben-Gurion[/c][/b]

@samueltyler2 Israel shouldn't have withdrawn from Gaza in 2005, under Sharon. Believing the Arabs want peace too, was a terrible mistake. Half a year later, Hamas was in power and since then they've tried to kill as many Israelis as possible.
No withdrawal from Gaza in 2005 ==> no October 2023 pogrom.

@jshm2 Many Palestinians are also descended from immigrants. Most Israeli Jews are descended from refugees, either from Europe or the Middle East. There is also an indigenous Jewish presence that has been in the area in an unbroken line since antiquity. More than half of Israeli Jews are Mizrahi, who were ethnically cleansed from their communities in the Arab world after Israel was created. Are they supposed to "go back to where they came from?"

Western liberals are fond of characterizing this conflict as the US Army vs. Sitting Bull, when in fact it's more complicated.

@pdqsailor1 [quote]So you chose the words "Final Solution to the Palestinian problem" on purpose did you? [/quote]
Of course he did. He can only think in terms of "final solutions".

Correct. He’s a jackass. @pdqsailor1 @helenS

@JSul3 Yeah Israeli government was warned, but here we are. Now it’s what to do next. And Hamas has made it known they’ll do this again. So it’s best to weaken their control on Gaza and eventually replace the group with someone else.

@Puppycat23 No doubt....but how many civilians do you kill in order to succeed?
Are they going to bomb Qatar where many Hamas leaders reside?

@JSul3 They used a drone to kill off some Hamas leader in Lebanon. They’ll probably send assassins to take out some Hamas leader if they’re in Qatar.

@WandererTony I tried to say that the [u]only[/u] raison d'être of a Palestinian state would be the annihilation of Israel, by all means, always, until the last Jew is dead. It's of course much easier to organize Holocaust v. 2.0 as a sovereign state.

@helenS firstly since holocaust occured and jews suffered does not mean that every attack on isreal be called holocaause and pogrom.
Secondly, Palestinians clearly are not happy to share their land wih isreal and isreal clearly is increasing its occupied territories and believes in eliminating its threat from territory that does not belong to it. This is called bullying and they justify it by citing terrorist acts by Hamas etc.
So its clearly a non reconcilable situation. And the one with more muscle wins. In this case isreal.

@WandererTony
its NOT their land Tony...

@butterflybaby75 allowing Israel to eliminate hamas unobstructed

@dubum LOL, two state my ass, the raghead terrorists are still calling for the destruction of Israel and the Jewish population

@dubum do you know who the original inhabitants of Gaza were? The Gazans have lived in that strip for over a thousand years. They had their independence recognized in 2005 when Israel left. The Gazans elected Hamas. So what do you suggest now?

@dubum

@dubum Evacuate to Russia? You mean all those children that have been kidnapped and taken to Russia?

@JSul3 They are already returned. Ukrainian in the south are allowed to Evacuate to Russia and treated equally. Israel don't let Gaza people evacuate to Israel.

@dubum Not all have been returned. False.

@Roundandroundwego he said Hamas must go, not the Gazans, or the "Palestinians," whoever those really are.

@samueltyler2 He has done a good job of killing over 17k. How many were Hamas?

@JSul3 we will never know. Probably a substantial number.

@Bumbles what is the win? Hamas doesn't want a Palestinian state unless it eliminates the state of Israel.

@samueltyler2 A win, not the big win. Hamas doesn’t want peace with Israel so they scuttle peace deals.

@Bumbles okay, i didnt understand your point b

@LeopoldBloom [quote]peace guarantees[/quote]
Nothing is as reliable as a peace guarantee

@helenS I don’t think the Palestinians can be trusted with independence at this point, either. I used to support a 2 state solution but the Palestinians blew it.

@Bumbles If Hamas owns a state, a country, instead of just the Gaza sh*thole, imagine how powerful they will be! Provided by Iran with everything they need to destroy Israel.

@NativePortlander1970 Not that easy. Note that ISIS still exists.

@JSul3 They do not operate in Gaza or the West Bank against the Israelis, they go against other muslims they consider apostate.

@NativePortlander1970 Ideology is hard to kill.....look at Afghanistan.

@sunriselover I'm still trying to figure out how barry big ears got his prize....