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Depopulation of Gaza.

For those of you whose take on this is that this is just about taking out terrorists or think it's best understood as as a war between two equal sides, please watch this short video.

British journalist Owen Jones summarises all the evidence that points to Israel wanting to fully depopulate (ethnically cleanse) Gaza.

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OliRos · 18-21, F
Owen Jones is a left wing elite extremist, whose opinion on any subject should be taken with a Siberian salt mine. Which is, ironically, where the good people of the Soviet Union would probably have sent him.

He is a bully, he talks over people in order to shut down criticism or contrary views. He would have been considered one of Stalin's useful fools.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@Guitarman123 [quote]No, you have to do the work yourself, if you want to be taken seriously.
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OK OJ.

[quote]He is i intelligent, opinionated and a bully. Reminds me of myself.[/quote]
OliRos · 18-21, F
@Guitarman123 Oh, don't be so silly.
Guitarman123 · 31-35, M
@OliRos so you can't come up with a counterpoint then?
Everyone knows this isn't doable. Egypt will go to war and breach peace agreements with Israel as long as they won't have to take in Palestinian refugees.
He's quoting some fringe media , not connected to ANY of the main Israeli media and is creating a thesis on it , and all that when he's already biased and anti Israel , if not anti Semitic.
RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
@BridgeOvertroubledWaters You clearly don't know what's going on.
@RodionRomanovitch you're very smart to judge things from far giving your learned opinion about things.
That's what the Nazi sympathizers did back in the 30s & 40s.
It's amazing how whenever there's a middle east conflict that all you "educated" anti semites crawl out of your holes.
And you ... you haven't the faintest idea what's going on , so why don't you just crawl back into your dirty hole.
RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
@BridgeOvertroubledWaters 'nazi ' 'anti-semite' 'crawl back into your dirty hole'

And all because I had the temerity to correct you , without insulting you once.

You're a real ambassador for your country dude. Bravo.
Neoerectus · M
I strongly suspect Israeli Intelligence has people and bots running ops here and on other platforms to facilitate the genocide and relocation they have in mind. Prof Shlomo Sand emeritus of Tel Aviv University called Israelis, in general, one of the most racist folks he knows of. He was born Jewish (since secular) and is Israeli. He has long decried the actions of the Israeli State. His research indicates the mythos of the Jewish State (and Palestinian State, by the by) was just that - mythology with virtually no historical/archaeological support.
Religion has long been used to justify actions.

The end result is neither had a deity-gifted state (BUT the Palestinians were here before bring displaced beginning about 1880's.)

Like all organized religions ( esp theocracies), it is a tool to manipulate, control and rationalize. No different from ISIS, Catholics/Protestants during their purges, so-called Buddhists of Myanmar, etc. etc.

No doubt the Hamas murderers also have their own. The working person Palestinian can't, being in an Israeli mega-camp of the "concentration" persuasion.
You make me laugh @Neoerectus 🤣
Prof Shlomo Sand is an ex communist extreme left wing anti Zionist. Didn't you find any one better to quote?!
Neoerectus · M
@Neoerectus


This is now de rigueur for any conflict. The Bot armies spring forth. already happening in US elections as well. Hello! AI and and non-AI bots everywhere! 🙄
Northwest · M
I will start by saying that there are no dissident newspapers in Israel. There are left leaning papers, and I subscribe to one, center (left and right) and right wing (started by the Canadian equivalent of Rupert Murdoch, who's now dead, but was the initial primary backer of Donald Trump. His wife carries on his hate agenda).

An interesting theory, and I don't doubt that some members of the Netanyahu government, would like to see this happen. One of the fucking morons was assuring the world that nuking Gaza was on the table. Even Netanyahu had to point out his foolishness. A number of them should be held responsible, at some point in the future, for their actions and hate speech.

It is no secret that Netanyahu's alliance's goal is to drive all non-Jews from the area, because they believe the land was given to them by God no less.

That said, the only thing that's on the agenda, post Netanyahu (and this part is certain), and for sure Hamas is gone, it to give the PA control over Gaza. This agenda is driven by the US, France, UK and to some extent, Germany. On board are the western-allied Arab countries, specifically the GCC, Qatar, Egypt, and Jordan.

In the meanwhile, I support what Bernie says.

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Oster1 · M
Anyone who can see the 30,000-foot view and what culminated and transpired to this point, would not be in disagreement. I'm afraid that I feel, the ultimate outcome. I'm also ashamed of my own country's leadership, in dealing with this tragedy. 😔
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@Oster1 Mine too.
Oster1 · M
@Burnley123 It's all disgustingly shameful. 😔
IamBack · 31-35, M
I can’t see the video but I have seen your profile, you’re an honourable man and a human, you have my full respect 🫡
RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
If all else fails , they could always just nuke 'em instead .....

"Amichai Eliyahu, a minister from the far-right Otzma Yehudit party, said that “one of Israel's options in the war in Gaza is to drop a nuclear bomb on the Strip. Speaking in a radio interview, Eliyahu also “voices his objection to allowing any humanitarian aid into Gaza.”
@RodionRomanovitch which proves his ignorance and the ignorance of all those that quote him.
Nuking Gaza will affect Israel. Everything there is close , it's a very small area.
Theyd throw him off a bridge very qucikly......
@SW-User Oh shutup you soyboy cuck.
SW-User
@BritishFailedAesthetic Reactionary genocide apologist.

Why don’t you take ownership of your shit views? Quit trying to moderate it, you fucking fake.
@SW-User You are pathetic.
HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M
Get the civilians out so they don't get hurt while Hamas is killed off
HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M
@Burnley123 sure it is. The carnage would be much worse. Hamas uses civilians as human shields
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@HoraceGreenley Nobody can get out of Gaza.
HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M
@Burnley123
For the majority that is true. Egypt won't let the Palestinians into Egypt.

The Saudis won't either.
SirAhmed · 31-35, M
We as Egyptian will fight hard for that. I mean the army is completely ready and I can grantee you it will be more of a war. not the street wars they're carrying against Hamas,
And no its not about not wanting to take Palestinians refugees. its the fact that Palestine is as important for us as Mecca and we will fight for it.
SirAhmed · 31-35, M
@ArtieKat Guess what? We fought for the land and we got it back. and unlike a Jew we didn't break the ceasefire. they did and still got their ass beaten in Suez by the resistance. and it's not a new thing for the Jews to bomb kids. if you're old enough as you claim you would remember that they used to bomb school in Egypt. Bahr El Baqar school.
ArtieKat · M
@SirAhmed [quote]We fought for the land and we got it back. and unlike a Jew we didn't break the ceasefire. they did and still got their ass beaten in Suez by the resistance.[/quote] Can you give me some context of dates you're talking about?
SirAhmed · 31-35, M
@ArtieKat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Suez
Northwest · M
FYI: I saw this news item today: [b][i]Leader of Burnley Council and 10 others quit Labour over Starmer’s Gaza ceasefire stance[/i][/b]
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@Northwest Yes, the town of my birth has a large Muslim population. In the UK, most Muslims are from Pakistani backgrounds but they are still utterly loyal to Palestinians.

Starmer's comment that Israel was fine to restrict food and water to Gaza was an unpalatable line for many.

Muslims are normally the most loyal labour voters and make many are councillors in the cities. There have been revolts like this in many places too.

Sadiq Khan and Andy Burnham (the two biggest metro) Mayors are calling for a ceasefire and that has contained the revolt a little in London and Manchester.

Ultimately, labour is set to win the next election anyway but the damage is deep and Muslim voters will remember that for a long time.
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What happened in 1945 @jshm2 ? 🤔
SW-User
https://www.vice.com/en/article/5d9jqx/israel-gaza-leak-displacement-nakba

https://www.972mag.com/intelligence-ministry-gaza-population-transfer/

 
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