@fanuc2013 that is exactly what Israel wants That is basically the core and the foundation of Israel You can say it’s their beloved culture 😂 The foundation of Israel is based on depopulating the land from the Palestinians and creating settlements from their ashes. Do you recall the nakba? Or have you forgotten it? why should the surrounding Arab countries take them in? Why are you insinuating that the Palestinians are not indigenous when they are?dna and history wise they are indigenous to their land. Are you saying I can annex denmark and tell them to flee from their land to a nearby European country? Palestinians know once they leave wether willingly or forcefully Israel will never let them in again. A Palestinian with a key to his ancestral home from around the world even those with an American passports can’t return but an American Jew with European history within one day can become a settler and take his home Israeli Settler logic : “if I don’t steal your home someone else will” [media=https://youtu.be/KNqozQ8uaV8]
@Moon3624 In your advanced years, you obviously haven't looked back and seen that various terror groups have attacked Israelis again and again! Not at this latest magnitude, but Hamas has gone too far this time! If you were the leader of Israel, what would you do?
@fanuc2013 I’m very well invested in the history of this occupation and apartheid and racist regime . Read it well and long enough to know that If this didn’t happen to Palestine It was gonna happen to Uganda or Argentina etc in fact Palestine wasn’t even on plan A Don’t believe me? Look it up. This Jewish supremacist state based on ethnically removing and suppressing the indigenous was gonna happen either way. The British had many suggestions of lands for them to usurp . Have you looked back at the nakba ? The nakba happened before the creation of Hamas . Have you looked at the pile of human right violations done by Israel to the Palestinians documented by safe the children ,the UN ,Harvard , endless human right organizations? The oppression and dehumanization of Palestinians happened before and after Hamas With and without Hamas. So don’t make this about Hamas. And you are yet to respond to a single point I made
I'm reading responses here and see a lack of understanding of the complete picture , but I won't go so far back and stick to what's happening during the past month. NOT as mentioned by someone ... Israel has absolutely NO wish to make the Palestinian people disappear. If the Hamas would not have attacked and massacred on October 7th non of this war would be happening. BUT , could any nation have such a thing done to them and not retaliate ? I don't think so. In 1993 Israel signed the Oslo agreement which basically said that the Palestinians have self government in Judea and Samaria and the Gaza strip. We signed an agreement with arch-terrorist Yasar Arafat. Israel supplied weapons to the PA police. Unfortunately those weapons were used against us. The PLO and Hamas continued their attacks against Israelis despite our willingness to give over lands. In 2005 Israel pulled out completely from the Gaza strip. 10000 Israelis left their homes. There are NO Israelis left in Gaza. Instead of taking the oppurtunity to turn the Gaza Strip into a Middle Eastern heaven of tourism , beaches , improve their medical services , education and standard of living with no war , they funneled funds from the Gulf States , the UN , the EU and the USA into their leaders privates Swiss bank accounts , digging a subway of underground tunnels to be used as bases for their terror , buying munitions. WHAT a waste :( Israel doesn't want Gaza so they should just leave us alone. What did Hamas think ? that Israel wouldn't fight back ? They have already admitted that the general civvilian population of Gaza doesn't interest them. When asked who should be taking care of the general population one of their heads answered ... The UN. That's the answer of the organization that is ruling Gaza. He's admitting that they couldn't care about their own brethren. It's all very clever for spoiled Western students to demonstrate and chant "Free Palestine" but for kids studying in Ivy League universities or centuries old established European universities , they're a lack of grip on reality. The reality is on one hand very complex , but on the other very simple ... and on all sides , VERY sad.
What defeat of Hamas? Are you referring to the children? Because most of who Israel killed are children . And as long as you have an apartheid and illegal occupation “hamas” or “KHamas” will keep on being created under the rubbles of oppression .
Hamas was formed literally decades after Israel started its violence, occupation and apartheid. I believe you meant to ask, Are we witnessing the continuation of 75+years of ethnically cleansing the Palestinians in order to steal more of their lands and homes ? Yes we are. I wonder if any of your posts mentioned the nakba Or the endless pile of human right violations documented by human right organizations done by Israel to the Palestinians throughout the decades .
Obama's boys aren't doing so well, huh? I don't think Israel will be interested in anything other than a victory of attrition. No ceasefires will do, only piles of dead terrorists and destroyed infrastructure.
@TexChik yes only the piles of dead childr- I meant terrorists will make Israel happy. Israel has a deep and rich culture when it comes to killing children even before the 7th of October documented by safe the children and the UN among other organizations wether in Gaza or the west bank or East Jerusalem So I’m not surprised. @Nimbus
@fanuc2013 Apparently Hamas is in mosques ,churches ,hospitals ,ambulances ,residential homes , UN facilities, schools etc You better check under your bed tonight God forbid Hamas is hiding there You wouldn’t want Israel to bomb your home and your family all together Would you now
@fanuc2013 1/that is an old lie and an excuse to ethnically cleanse Palestinians . They have specifically targeted civilian buildings. No sane person would justify bombing a church or a refugee camp or a hospital unless you are the devil himself these are some of the most vulnerable places you could literally bomb . but let us go with your sick narrative , If a terrorist grabs a child and points a gun to his head Will you kill both the child and the terrorist just to kill the terrorist ? Will you bomb a bank with terrorists and civilians in it because well as long as we kill the terrorists the civilians don’t matter !? And the Palestinians themselves stated Hamas doesn’t force them to stay anywhere or go anywhere They are being indiscriminately Bombed
2/you are saying bombs were meant to target Hamas but “ unfortunately” the overwhelming majority of the victims are civilians Ok I’ll go with it But what about depriving over 2.2 million civilians (50% of them children ) of water food medical aid telecommunications etc ? how do you justify that ?
3/ honey as long as you have an occupation and apartheid (not my wording but the wording of Harvard ,endless human right organizations , the UN etc ) No matter how much you eradicate “Hamas “ they will keep on getting created .
4/ you are acting as if the Israeli army is some brave army 😂 most of the time they face children with rocks in villages .
5/ you sure the Israeli army doesn’t use human shields ?
@ninalanyon who said the Israeli army put themselves in the line of fire ?😂 They are the most coward army on the face of this planet. Their biggest achievement throughout the decades is killing children who hit their tank with a rock
@Ontheroad There are no two sides and it’s not complicated One is the occupier And the other is the occupied. One is enforcing apartheid And the other is going through it. one came from abroad And one had their home stolen by those who came from abroad
@Entwistle Quite right. And they will come from all corners of the Muslim world. Even an army of ants can overcome an elephant.
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Hopefully..I just hope that they will be replaced with someone that is suitable..we don't want another Afghanistan or Iraq on our hands that would be a disaster
Hamas uses women and children as shields........ they are the lowest of the low. IDF could kill them all and I would be good with it. Unfortunately, there are other psychos willing to step in to the void they leave.
Unfortunately, Hamas will never be wiped out as they have their people and supporters in just about every country. They may be defeated, but they'll still keep trying.
1/ You called Hamas sorry I meant KHamas terrorists but didn’t call the daddy a terrorist a This is called hypocrisy And I loooooove pointing out hypocrisy. Why are you mad that I called you out?
2/ you mentioned none sense about “peace” treaties proposed by Israel But if anyone actually invests in researching about them Will find out they were ragged and unfair proposals.
@Moon3624 I hope both sides will one day have leaders that find a peaceful solution. I don’t know if you feel the same way but I hope you do. Bye for now.
@Harmonium1923 I’m not against peace I’m just tired of people painting it as difficult just because the white regimes once again don’t want to be portrayed as uncivil and barbaric . the Palestinians aren’t who started this conflict .
Imagine Japan after world war 2 Let us imagine it became an American mandate. (Palestinian people were under the ottoman rule at the time when they became a British mandate ) Then the Americans decided to give Japan to a third party (let’s say the Kurds ) And told the Kurds “go to Japan and make it your home and nation “ And those Kurds migrated by masses to Japan from all over the world And wanted to reign over the Japanese and viewed themselves superior and more entitled to this land than the Japanese. Then they started depopulating Japanese villages and homes by committing genocides and massacres such as the nakba and forcing the Japanese either to the outskirts of Japan or outside of Japan as refugees (all while stealing their culture, homes which they have keys to , farms etc ) then built segregation walls, humiliating checkpoints , controlling the Japanese access to water electricity etc ,two separate court systems for the two diff people , politicians who refer to the Japanese as inferior and animals , police who protect the Kurd settlers as they rampage Japanese places of worship and even arming them to rampage Japanese villages And the list goes on…. Now resistance movements would surely form under the rubbles of this oppression Because that happened historically speaking everywhere in the world where you had an occupation or and apartheid Now let us say that this resistance group or elements within this resistance group did terror attack Which any sane person would condemn But will this sane person Turn a blind eye to the daddy ?
Replace America with Britain Kurds with Jews Japan with Palestine And you have it.
@Harmonium1923 “ The Palestinians are the ones who have repeatedly rejected two state solutions, most recently at the Camp David meetings in 2005.”
First of all, The aggressors do not get to make the rules.
Second of all, That is a bunch of misleading nonsense and lies There was never a just peace solution proposed by Israel All the “solutions” Were about the Palestinians having the poor lands while they have the arable lands or things like Hebrew labor exclusiveness Or Palestinians not having an army or for the humiliating checkpoints to remain And so on There is not a single peace treaty offered by Israel that is actually just or rational
hopefully they go back to hiding in their rat holes for a while when they realize that surrounding themselves with naive, gullible, palestinians won't protect them anymore...
