Fear of change and progress

@sree251 social policies within a capitalist society implemented by soc dems, socialist or communist parties can be traced back to marxism obviously

@Gloomy Ownership of the means of production, as suggested by Marx, is another way of stating government by the people (US democracy). America is a mess.

@sree251 Marx form of communism rejects the state money and classes.

@SteelHands I guess I have found myself a creepy SW stalker... lucky me

@Cierzo It is a nightmare when it is used in a way to argue against necessary progress.

@Gloomy Progress is an empty word. Progress always needs a goal. Marx's and mine do not agree.
You use the word 'necessary'. It means there is no other way, so those who oppose marxist 'progress' must be defeated/exterminated.

@Cierzo No I mean that if certain progress isn't made problems that are not fixed keep getting worse until living conditions are a complete nightmare.

@Gloomy Ok, it's a pity that Red won't be reasonable.

@sree251 if leftists understood economics they wouldn’t be leftists.

@Gloomy The extant and now extinguished examples of communism are the best descriptions of hellholes humans have yet devised.

@darkmere1983 Change for the betterment of all, not just a select few.

@ViciDraco Capitalists in positions of power obviously oppose change because it threatens the status quo but your average conservatives and working class people are often too afraid of change either due to lack of information or due to fearmongering or because they seek comfort in outdated and romanticised memories and ideals of the past.