New York Becomes First State to Pass Legislation Banning Use of Natural Gas for Heating and Cooking

I wonder if any of the advocates of these bans are even remotely aware that LNG isn't just used for cooking stoves, but it's also the primary energy source for hvac (heating and cooling), water heating (tankless/on demand systems), and backup/emergency power generation. And by primary, I mean 80-90% of all industrial & commercial buildings

of all the commercial heating methods, LNG is the most efficient & cost effective; whereas electric furnaces & electric baseboard heating are the least efficient and most expensive

gas stoves are 300% more energy efficient than electric stoves, and they're quicker as far as heat up and cool down times; they're also simpler & last longer than electric stoves.

Electric is fine in rural areas, where energy production is abundant & usage low, and the grid load is minimal & consistent. It becomes problematic in urban areas where energy supply can barely keep up with demand, and massive load shifts (like a bunch of AC units all turning on at the same time) completely overwhelm powerlines and substations (they simply can't react quick enough to maintain current), hence brownouts/blackouts; or the lines themselves can't carry the required current (this is why your breakers trip when you try to run something that requires a lot of power on a long extension cord, especially multiple tools/appliances on a splitter/single receptacle)

There simply isn't enough electrical power available to make 100% electric practical. And "green" energies like wind and solar don't counteract any of the shortfalls either. Hydro, Nuclear, Coal, LNG, etc. power plants rarely run at 100% capacity all the time, they keep turbines/generators in reserve for redundancy and increased demand/peak loading (i.e. they can "ramp up" production to meet energy demands on a grid)

for all intensive purposes, solar and wind operate at 100% all the time, contingent on available sunlight & wind, there is no self contained redundancy nor power available for increased loads (instead they buy power from competitors that use alternate energies, & usually at a premium). And other than hydroelectric & pumped storage hydropower (pumping water into a reservoir to use in gravity turbines later), there is no efficient means of storing "green" energy. Batteries are too size & cost prohibitive to use on a large scale, nor posses the required discharge rates for large scale usage/demand.

In the end, New Yorkers will pay more for more unreliable power, experience more brownouts/blackouts; and that LNG that they refuse to burn will just be sold & burnt elsewhere (which may actually reduce LNG prices for the rest of us), and while New York politicians are patting themselves on the back and expecting gratitude from their subordinates for "saving the world", they'll be selling their subsidized oil & natural gas that they no longer use, to other states, and make millions in the process...

Natural gas is a clean alternative compared to many other energy sources. These people are just stupid. Apparently the electrical energy folks are paying, sorry "contributing" more than their natural gas competitors.

If they want to eliminate gas powered devices, perhaps they should consider duct taping Schumer's mouth.

Another conspiracy theory that ends up being true.
The left does suck

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New York becomes the first state to pass legislation to convert itself into a 3rd world country. I just fixed your headline.

Another so called conspiracy theory proven to be correct!
The left are such liars!

I think we should bring back wood stoves - the pot bellied kind - for cooking and heating. Especially in NYC.

And what about gas-lights? Those were cool! open flames, spouting from sconces in your hallways and bedroom?

If that seems too dangerous, we could go back to kerosene lanterns and candles, I suppose.

Probably will create a demand for older houses, or loopholes where they will leave one wall of an older house standing so as to call it a "remodel" and not new construction.

I wonder how many buyers of new houses really want gas stoves. Where I live it seems like people are getting rid of gas stoves in favor of electric. I just bought a new gas range mainly because a new electric range would have required a service panel upgrade.

That said I am definitely not in favor of an outright ban because my feeling is that most people will choose electric anyway. Especially households with women, because it seems like the women I know always claim they smell a gas leak...:)

But this isn't the first thing that got banned or phased out that people raised a huge stink about and turns out most people didn't care (analog television, leaded gas, etc)

New studies show that gas stoves are worse for the environment than previously thought, and contribute directly to global warming because they constantly leak small amounts of methane even while they're turned off. Gas stoves can also emit high levels of nitrogen oxides, which raises public concerns about health impacts and air quality indoors.

But I like to cook, on a gas stove, so that is what I have. If Biden will buy me one of those induction electric stoves I will gladly get rid of my gas stove, they are every bit as good as gas and easier to clean up. And the oven if he will buy me an electric combi steam oven I will gladly get rid of my gas oven.

Kathy Hochul is the one behind the gas stove debacle.

Good! About time gas stoves were banned. I use an induction cookersand my fair trade tofu is browned to perfection with but a whisper of inducted heat.

The world is changing, old man. Deal with it 🙂

And, of course, what is conveniently overlooked here is the fact that it's for MOST new buildings built from 2026 onwards.

[quote]When the phase-in starts [b]in 2026[/b], newly constructed buildings will have to forego fossil fuel equipment in favor of devices like induction ranges and heat pumps that run on electricity.

[b]The state mandate applies only to new construction and does not affect existing buildings.
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"I[b] want to be very clear. I know people love to misinterpret this, but people with existing gas stoves, you're welcome to keep them," [/b]Hochul told reporters Tuesday, before lawmakers began voting on the budget.

"This is where our nation has to go eventually," she said "But I want to make sure that it's not a bumpy road to the transition."

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Oh well..Them voters aren't coming on my property when they get cold.