Matt Tiabbi and Glenn Greenwald Being Called Right Wing
By the mainstream "left" and mainstream media cohorts.
This is actually hilarious 😂 and embarrassing
This is actually hilarious 😂 and embarrassing
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ElwoodBlues · M
@gol979 says
Continuing on the subject of the alleged "Hunter Biden laptop," copies of the hard drive were handed out to the media for analysis. Washington Post got one and passed it to two independent computer forensics experts. Below are some excerpts of their report, but let me just highlight one item: "... because the data had been handled repeatedly in a manner that deleted logs and other files that forensic experts use to establish a file’s authenticity."
That's right, someone deleted the operating system log files on the drive. Probably not Hunter Biden - he doesn't know enough. The absence of log files is terribly suspicious. It strongly suggests that files on the drive were modified by someone other than Hunter Biden, and then a crude attempt was made to hide the footprints. There goes your theory of the case. There goes your prosecution. Here comes the "Russian dirty tricks" narrative.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/03/30/hunter-biden-laptop-data-examined/
Here’s how The Post analyzed Hunter Biden’s laptop
Washington Post
March 30, 2022
Thousands of emails purportedly from the laptop computer of Hunter Biden, President Biden’s son, are authentic communications that can be verified through cryptographic signatures from Google and other technology companies, say two security experts who examined the data at the request of The Washington Post.
The verifiable emails are a small fraction of 217 gigabytes of data provided to The Post on a portable hard drive by Republican activist Jack Maxey. He said the contents of the portable drive originated from Hunter Biden’s MacBook Pro, which Hunter reportedly dropped off at a computer repair shop in Wilmington, Del., in April 2019 and never reclaimed.
The vast majority of the data — and most of the nearly 129,000 emails it contained — could not be verified by either of the two security experts who reviewed the data for The Post. Neither found clear evidence of tampering in their examinations, but some of the records that might have helped verify contents were not available for analysis, they said. The Post was able in some instances to find documents from other sources that matched content on the laptop that the experts were not able to assess.
Among the reasons for the inconclusive findings was sloppy handling of the data, which damaged some records. The experts found the data had been repeatedly accessed and copied by people other than Hunter Biden over nearly three years. The MacBook itself is now in the hands of the FBI, which is investigating whether Hunter Biden properly reported income from business dealings.
Most of the data obtained by The Post lacks cryptographic features that would help experts make a reliable determination of authenticity, especially in a case where the original computer and its hard drive are not available for forensic examination. Other factors, such as emails that were only partially downloaded, also stymied the security experts’ efforts to verify content.
. . .
At The Post’s request, Matt Green, a Johns Hopkins University security researcher who specializes in cryptography, and Jake Williams, a forensics expert and former National Security Agency operative who once hacked the computers of foreign adversaries, separately examined two copies The Post made of the portable drive Maxey provided.
. . .
In their examinations, Green and Williams found evidence that people other than Hunter Biden had accessed the drive and written files to it, both before and after the initial stories in the New York Post and long after the laptop itself had been turned over to the FBI.
Maxey had alerted The Washington Post to this issue in advance, saying that others had accessed the data to examine its contents and make copies of files. But the lack of what experts call a “clean chain of custody” undermined Green’s and Williams’s ability to determine the authenticity of most of the drive’s contents.
. . .
Analysis was made significantly more difficult, both experts said, because the data had been handled repeatedly in a manner that deleted logs and other files that forensic experts use to establish a file’s authenticity.
. . .
Many questions about the drive remained impossible to answer definitively. That includes what happened during a nearly year-long period of apparent inactivity from September 2019 — about five months after Hunter Biden reportedly dropped off the laptop at the repair shop — until August 2020, when the presidential campaign involving his father was entering its final months.
Soon after that period of inactivity — and months after the laptop itself had been taken into FBI custody — three new folders were created on the drive. Dated Sept. 1 and 2, 2020, they bore the names “Desktop Documents,” “Biden Burisma” and “Hunter. Burisma Documents.”
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Williams also found records on the drive that indicated someone may have accessed the drive from a West Coast location in October 2020, little more than a week after the first New York Post stories on Hunter Biden’s laptop appeared.
so its all a lie? Nothing of import? And if so, how do you know?
The legal issue is called "chain of custody," you can look it up. It means there's no way to establish which files on the drive are valid and which might have been placed there afterwards. It means there's a very strong reasonable doubt that any good lawyer can and will introduce. And every prosecutor knows that.Continuing on the subject of the alleged "Hunter Biden laptop," copies of the hard drive were handed out to the media for analysis. Washington Post got one and passed it to two independent computer forensics experts. Below are some excerpts of their report, but let me just highlight one item: "... because the data had been handled repeatedly in a manner that deleted logs and other files that forensic experts use to establish a file’s authenticity."
That's right, someone deleted the operating system log files on the drive. Probably not Hunter Biden - he doesn't know enough. The absence of log files is terribly suspicious. It strongly suggests that files on the drive were modified by someone other than Hunter Biden, and then a crude attempt was made to hide the footprints. There goes your theory of the case. There goes your prosecution. Here comes the "Russian dirty tricks" narrative.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/03/30/hunter-biden-laptop-data-examined/
Here’s how The Post analyzed Hunter Biden’s laptop
Washington Post
March 30, 2022
Thousands of emails purportedly from the laptop computer of Hunter Biden, President Biden’s son, are authentic communications that can be verified through cryptographic signatures from Google and other technology companies, say two security experts who examined the data at the request of The Washington Post.
The verifiable emails are a small fraction of 217 gigabytes of data provided to The Post on a portable hard drive by Republican activist Jack Maxey. He said the contents of the portable drive originated from Hunter Biden’s MacBook Pro, which Hunter reportedly dropped off at a computer repair shop in Wilmington, Del., in April 2019 and never reclaimed.
The vast majority of the data — and most of the nearly 129,000 emails it contained — could not be verified by either of the two security experts who reviewed the data for The Post. Neither found clear evidence of tampering in their examinations, but some of the records that might have helped verify contents were not available for analysis, they said. The Post was able in some instances to find documents from other sources that matched content on the laptop that the experts were not able to assess.
Among the reasons for the inconclusive findings was sloppy handling of the data, which damaged some records. The experts found the data had been repeatedly accessed and copied by people other than Hunter Biden over nearly three years. The MacBook itself is now in the hands of the FBI, which is investigating whether Hunter Biden properly reported income from business dealings.
Most of the data obtained by The Post lacks cryptographic features that would help experts make a reliable determination of authenticity, especially in a case where the original computer and its hard drive are not available for forensic examination. Other factors, such as emails that were only partially downloaded, also stymied the security experts’ efforts to verify content.
. . .
At The Post’s request, Matt Green, a Johns Hopkins University security researcher who specializes in cryptography, and Jake Williams, a forensics expert and former National Security Agency operative who once hacked the computers of foreign adversaries, separately examined two copies The Post made of the portable drive Maxey provided.
. . .
In their examinations, Green and Williams found evidence that people other than Hunter Biden had accessed the drive and written files to it, both before and after the initial stories in the New York Post and long after the laptop itself had been turned over to the FBI.
Maxey had alerted The Washington Post to this issue in advance, saying that others had accessed the data to examine its contents and make copies of files. But the lack of what experts call a “clean chain of custody” undermined Green’s and Williams’s ability to determine the authenticity of most of the drive’s contents.
. . .
Analysis was made significantly more difficult, both experts said, because the data had been handled repeatedly in a manner that deleted logs and other files that forensic experts use to establish a file’s authenticity.
. . .
Many questions about the drive remained impossible to answer definitively. That includes what happened during a nearly year-long period of apparent inactivity from September 2019 — about five months after Hunter Biden reportedly dropped off the laptop at the repair shop — until August 2020, when the presidential campaign involving his father was entering its final months.
Soon after that period of inactivity — and months after the laptop itself had been taken into FBI custody — three new folders were created on the drive. Dated Sept. 1 and 2, 2020, they bore the names “Desktop Documents,” “Biden Burisma” and “Hunter. Burisma Documents.”
. . .
Williams also found records on the drive that indicated someone may have accessed the drive from a West Coast location in October 2020, little more than a week after the first New York Post stories on Hunter Biden’s laptop appeared.
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ElwoodBlues · M
@gol979 Admit it - you haven't seen these alleged photos!! In fact, you don't even have reliable information that they EXIST!!!
You've just convicted a man in your mind based on a facebook disinformation campaign!! If you want to see one of Putin's useful idiots, head to the nearest mirror, ROTFL!!!
You've just convicted a man in your mind based on a facebook disinformation campaign!! If you want to see one of Putin's useful idiots, head to the nearest mirror, ROTFL!!!
gol979 · 41-45, M
@ElwoodBlues so we are back to "russian disinfo" which has been roundly discredited. Enjoy propping up peedos. Just sick
ElwoodBlues · M
@gol979 Admit it - you haven't seen these alleged photos!! In fact, you don't even have reliable information that they EXIST!!!
When the laptop story broke two years ago, it was all about allegations of financial dealings. Republican activist Jack Maxey even handed out copies of the drive to media outlets for independent analysis. And guess what?
NOT A SINGLE reporter mentioned ANYTHING about child porn or child sex or anything like that. NOT ONE!! But now you're eager to spread a new claim - one that took OVER TWO YEARS to surface!!!
Enjoy propping up Putin. Just sick
When the laptop story broke two years ago, it was all about allegations of financial dealings. Republican activist Jack Maxey even handed out copies of the drive to media outlets for independent analysis. And guess what?
NOT A SINGLE reporter mentioned ANYTHING about child porn or child sex or anything like that. NOT ONE!! But now you're eager to spread a new claim - one that took OVER TWO YEARS to surface!!!
Enjoy propping up Putin. Just sick
LegendofPeza · 56-60, M
gol979 · 41-45, M
@LegendofPeza jeez. Real simple (stop going on about orange man). Do you think that the contents of hunter bidens laptop are a hoax/lie/russian disinfo? Why can ppl never answer real simple questions
LegendofPeza · 56-60, M
@gol979 You've got absolutely nothing to say of any import. I've already answered your facile 'gotcha' question and I'm done with your endless prevaricating.
Go find some other like-minded idiot to engage with you , I'm not wasting another breath.
Go find some other like-minded idiot to engage with you , I'm not wasting another breath.
gol979 · 41-45, M
@LegendofPeza 😂😂😂😂 "i dare not answer your question because it will lead to major cognitive dissonance" Adios my child
BohemianBabe · M
LeopoldBloom · M
gol979 · 41-45, M
@LeopoldBloom so its all a lie? Nothing of import? And if so, how do you know?
gol979 · 41-45, M
@LeopoldBloom and there we have it. You dont care about this because it looks bad on "your side". Even if he has what look like gross photos with him abusing children
basilfawlty89 · 31-35, M
@YourMomsSecretCrush and a COVID conspiracy theorist, transphobic and regularly hosts far right figures like Milo Yankingoffkidssalot.
@basilfawlty89 so he has a history of supporting both left and right wing causes. by most peoples standards that would place him as a moderate.
BohemianBabe · M
@YourMomsSecretCrush That's because Joe Rogan platforms Fascists and repeats right-wing propaganda without fact-checking.
I don't think Rogan is a Fash, but he's unintentionally helping them.
I don't think Rogan is a Fash, but he's unintentionally helping them.
TheOneyouwerewarnedabout · 46-50, MVIP
interesting development.
due to james baker scrubbing 'the twitter files' of any FBI involvment in censorship.
before being escorted out the building today.
musks says he has to re-release the first batch .. untampered.. 🍿
due to james baker scrubbing 'the twitter files' of any FBI involvment in censorship.
before being escorted out the building today.
musks says he has to re-release the first batch .. untampered.. 🍿
PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M
Matt Taibbi maybe but Glenn Greenwald has really lost the plot and seems all over the map of late. To the point of contradicting his own previous work.
BizSuitStacy · M
LOL. Weird since they were Hillary supporters in 2016. But hey, refuse to carry the deep state's water, and you'll get the radical right winger tag.
Roundandroundwego · 61-69
The Dems own the rights to representation of the left three fourths of the population. Too bad owning us isn't democracy.
ElwoodBlues · M
@gol979 says
We care. But we care about the whole story, not just the slanted cherrypicked disinformation you want to spread.
You dont care about this
... The Trump White House also successfully asked Twitter to delete certain material, Taibbi noted. Still, many MAGA believers have cited the Biden campaign’s successful request as evidence that Twitter colluded with Democrats in 2020. Taibbi’s tweet revealing this exchange has been retweeted about 46,000 times so far. Musk, who has 120 million followers, replied to it with the question: “If this isn’t a violation of the Constitution’s First Amendment, what is?” (It isn’t a violation of First Amendment, as Musk later claimed he knew.) Fox News has given the matter extravagant coverage. Donald Trump responded to this supposedly unconstitutional activity by calling for “the termination” of the Constitution.
Mostly overlooked in the howling is that Twitter blocked two different kinds of material connected to Hunter’s laptop. The first category was reporting by the New York Post, which detailed—in some cases, inaccurately—Hunter’s efforts during and after the Obama administration to profit off being the son of the vice president. The second category was far different: scores of photos and videos that showed Hunter having sex and using drugs.
Twitter’s decision to suppress reporting on Hunter’s business efforts was purportedly based on suspicions that the stories relied on documents that might have been hacked by Russians—the precise scenario that occurred in 2016—and that those documents might include forgeries mixed with real material, a tactic Russian agents reportedly tried in France in 2017. But those fears were not borne out. In retrospect, as former Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey later acknowledged, the decision to block the Post story appears to have been a serious misstep.
But Taibbi, Musk, and company seem to have focused a lot of their fire on Twitter’s suppression of Hunter’s dick pics and similar stuff. The currently accessible tweets cited in the email that elicited Musk’s First Amendment comment were about sex, not political corruption. All that is revealed by the emails in that screenshot is Twitter following its own terms of service. Nonconsensual pictures of people’s junk are not protected speech. As Jeffrey Lebowski once told Walter Sobchak, “This is not a First Amendment thing, man.”
. . .
But let’s look at who was posting those pics in the first place. The third tweet cited in Taibbi’s screenshot, the Internet Archive shows, came from an account that features a logo and slogan indicating the user is a member of New Federal State of China. The NFSC is an organization set up in 2020 by Steve Bannon and Guo Wengui, an exiled Chinese mogul, who has aggressively promoted false claims about Covid vaccines and the 2020 election.
Other social media accounts used by a person with the same user name—a Chinese phrase that means “fitness training”—along with the same avatar, indicate the user is a member of a group of Guo supporters based on Long Island. A person who previously worked with Guo’s organization told me this is a man who uses the name Wenyang and regularly works to help Guo put material online. The source did not know the man’s real name, but that is normal for Guo backers, who often collaborate online and use nicknames. Wenyang did not respond to messages I sent to his account.
Mostly overlooked in the howling is that Twitter blocked two different kinds of material connected to Hunter’s laptop. The first category was reporting by the New York Post, which detailed—in some cases, inaccurately—Hunter’s efforts during and after the Obama administration to profit off being the son of the vice president. The second category was far different: scores of photos and videos that showed Hunter having sex and using drugs.
Twitter’s decision to suppress reporting on Hunter’s business efforts was purportedly based on suspicions that the stories relied on documents that might have been hacked by Russians—the precise scenario that occurred in 2016—and that those documents might include forgeries mixed with real material, a tactic Russian agents reportedly tried in France in 2017. But those fears were not borne out. In retrospect, as former Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey later acknowledged, the decision to block the Post story appears to have been a serious misstep.
But Taibbi, Musk, and company seem to have focused a lot of their fire on Twitter’s suppression of Hunter’s dick pics and similar stuff. The currently accessible tweets cited in the email that elicited Musk’s First Amendment comment were about sex, not political corruption. All that is revealed by the emails in that screenshot is Twitter following its own terms of service. Nonconsensual pictures of people’s junk are not protected speech. As Jeffrey Lebowski once told Walter Sobchak, “This is not a First Amendment thing, man.”
. . .
But let’s look at who was posting those pics in the first place. The third tweet cited in Taibbi’s screenshot, the Internet Archive shows, came from an account that features a logo and slogan indicating the user is a member of New Federal State of China. The NFSC is an organization set up in 2020 by Steve Bannon and Guo Wengui, an exiled Chinese mogul, who has aggressively promoted false claims about Covid vaccines and the 2020 election.
Other social media accounts used by a person with the same user name—a Chinese phrase that means “fitness training”—along with the same avatar, indicate the user is a member of a group of Guo supporters based on Long Island. A person who previously worked with Guo’s organization told me this is a man who uses the name Wenyang and regularly works to help Guo put material online. The source did not know the man’s real name, but that is normal for Guo backers, who often collaborate online and use nicknames. Wenyang did not respond to messages I sent to his account.
We care. But we care about the whole story, not just the slanted cherrypicked disinformation you want to spread.
MethDozer · M
It would be hard to call Taibbi right wing in good faith based on his words and past reporting. His current battle with media tactics and "cancel culture" has just put him in a bad spot with a segment on the left. But given his profession and history of style of reporting it makes sense where he stands. Would I call him right wing in good faith though? No.
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gol979 · 41-45, M
@LordShadowfire i agree they have the illusion of being left leaning. I was using the acceptable narrative