Matt Tiabbi and Glenn Greenwald Being Called Right Wing

@RodionRomanovitch 😂😂 "you are saying something i dont agree with. RIGHT WINGER!!!!". Honestly, its laughable

@RodionRomanovitch 😂😂😂 you lovely (alleged) lefties love getting in a tizz about name calling but many of you throw the r word around.

So, what makes these 2 right wing, all of a sudden? What stance are they taking that makes them right wing?

@gol979 Matt Taibbi , that’s the guy Musk decided would be a credible voice to tell us what happened with the Hunter Biden laptop story. lol

He was long a critic of what he called “RussiaGate” based on the tried and true tactic of treating the Steele dossier and Alfa Bank allegations — and not the legal verdicts that confirmed Trump’s National Security Advisor, campaign manager, Coffee Boy, personal lawyer, and rat-fucker all lied to hide the true nature of their Russian ties — as the primary substance of the case. Taibbi scolded others about shoddy reporting even while he adhered to the Single Server fallacy that not only assumed all the hacked material came from just one server, but ignored the hack of Amazon Web Services content and abundant other evidence attributing the hacks to Russia from other cloud companies. Then there was the time Taibbi tried to smack down on claims that Maria Butina used sex to entice targets, in which he made error after error, all without allowing his false claims to be disrupted by consulting the actual primary sources.

Likewise with Greenwald , sold his fucking soul once Trump got elected.

You know what they also have in common ? Greed. They both knew they could earn much more money proselytizing to the far right than the left , and that's exactly what they did.

@RodionRomanovitch russiagate was a complete farce. But lets put that aside......dont you think people should know whats going on with this laptop? And i will point out that when this was first released it was derided as "russian disinfo"...which is incorrect (adding to the farce of russiagate).

Surely you dont still think the laptop and info from it is still russian disinfo? And why does reporting the evidence on the laptop make them right wing?

@gol979 The laptop had nothing to do with 'russiagate'.

'And why does reporting the evidence on the laptop make them right wing?' - because it's a right wing conspiracy theory that was concocted to stop Biden becoming President.

You really needed me to spell that out for you ?

@RodionRomanovitch so you think whatever is on that laptop is a lie?

@gol979 I've no way of knowing , but I do know it's irrelevant to anyone but Hunter Biden and the right-wing conspiracy theorists who are desperate (still) to try and use it to damage the President.

There's a very good reason why no-one else cares : Because it [b]doesn't fucking matter[/b].

@RodionRomanovitch why doesnt it matter if his son is a peadophile (joe has a proclivity for sniffing childrens hair) and is using his family ties for financial corruption?

@gol979 lol ..... back to the nonsense.

Anyway I thought we were talking about Greenwald and Taibbi. If they are left wing , as is your contention , you really think they're going to be promoting this right-wing bullshit ?

@RodionRomanovitch yes we are and you said they are right wing because they are pushing right wing conspiracies and the laptop is just one big hoax, correct?

Do you think its a big lie?

@gol979 hey I see you finally found something to talk about besides COVID, congratulations on your (albeit stunted) personality growth!

@basilfawlty89 whats your point? And i will keep speaking about covid insanity as much as i want.....you dont have to engage. In fact i know you wont. "Safe and effective" 😉

@gol979 It’s unimportant and nothing will come of it. We care about it as much as you care about Traitor Tot stealing documents.

@gol979 oh I will engage on this. Greenwalk defended and platformed a far right hack like Alex Jones, that pretty much explains his politics. Just because you claim to be left or center, doesn't mean you are. You judge a person based on their actions.

@basilfawlty89 and whats far right about reporting on the contents of hunter bidens laptop?

@gol979 ok , after a long digression through laptop world , shall we get back to the point ?

I've told you why I consider Greenwald and Taibbi to be right wing. Now why don't you tell me , as per your original contention , why you think that notion is laughable ?

@RodionRomanovitch its an easy question. Do you think hunter bidens laptop is a big hoax? All a lie? If you do then fair enough, i can see why youd think they are right wing

@gol979 That wasn't the original question though was it ...... and I've already told you I have no way of knowing.

Your turn ...... why do you think they are left wing ?

@RodionRomanovitch that is the question. If you think its a big lie then i can see why you think them right wing. But if you accept theres some dodgy stuff on his laptop i cant see how reporting on this makes someone right wing.

So, do you think hunter biden laptop is a hoax/lie/russian disinfo? Super easy question to answer

@gol979 Nah , you first. (I've already answered your super easy question anyway.)

@RodionRomanovitch so you think its all made up? Just for clarification

@gol979 Ok , here's what I do know.

Remember that Pilar A of the Trump reelection campaign was positioning Biden as the head of a crime family whose only reason for being in politics was to leverage that into personal wealth. The original impeachment was over conditioning aid to Ukraine over them admitting there was a corruption investigation into Biden’s actions in ukraine as VP (not doing the investigation, not even finding information, just saying there was one). They were so focused on this as their winning strategy that right before the election they hatched a plot about a laptop they were going to spin as containing evidence of the “crime”. By and large the mainstream press were wise to it, were aware of a lack of chain of custody over the material they were being asked to report on and so took a very hands off approach with it. The only source that covered it the way MAGA wanted was the NY Post (a MAGA rag) and reporting on how they came to report on it quickly blew holes in the story. The result was a lot of meta-coverage…the coverage of the lack of coverage), but very very little of the details from the “laptop”. The socials all have policies on down weighting dubious stories in their algorithms and all applied those actions to this story.

Ever since, MAGA world have been convinced the failure to take their bait is evidence of a coordinated pro liberal agenda designed to get Trump out of office. On Friday, Musk and Matt Tiabbi coordinated on a report of what the “twitter files” said about how Twitter responded to the situation. What Tiabbi reported didnt support their argument even one bit, but in typical MAGA fashion the evidence doesnt need to support their argument. They don’t read, and they certainly dont think about what words they might have seen, so they just need to know there is a piece of paper, and then be told what the words on the piece of paper mean and off they run. So, MAGA world is now convinced Tiabbi uncovered (was given access to files by Musk, with “conditions” applied) proof that the government (they forget that Trump was actually President at the time, not Biden) squashed “the laptop story” when it shows no such thing.

In reality what evidence they do have of Biden’s team getting involved was his campaign reaching out to point out that what was being repeatedly shared on twitter was hacked, sexually explicitly photos of Hunter…dick pics and self made porn. the rest of the evidence (with 1 exception) all points to twitter having a process for dealing with hacked information and information of dubious legitimacy (note, it was since proven that files had been written onto the laptop after Hunter had last had access to it) following that process. The one exception? The Trump White House (not his campaign, but the actual executive branch of the federal government) asking twitter to do what they claim the government (i.e. Biden, the not yet actually president and so not government) unfairly did to the Trump campaign.


Your turn ........

@RodionRomanovitch jeez. Real simple (stop going on about orange man). Do you think that the contents of hunter bidens laptop are a hoax/lie/russian disinfo? Why can ppl never answer real simple questions

@gol979 You've got absolutely nothing to say of any import. I've already answered your facile 'gotcha' question and I'm done with your endless prevaricating.

Go find some other like-minded idiot to engage with you , I'm not wasting another breath.