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There was no red wave

It looks like the Democrats did much better than expected. We can thank Sam Alito for the execrable Dobbs decision, and Donald Trump for pushing a bunch of terrible candidates.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
Did BudJack promise a red wave again as he did in 2018? He was so embarrassed to be caught lying about his claim of a red wave then that he blocked me in a fit of rage.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@LeopoldBloom Probably. I remember one of his first posts touting Trump's "significant increase in popularity" after he took office. When I looked at it, there was a small uptick, immediately after January 20, 2017, followed by a continuous slide down in approval. He created the illusion of an increase by chopping the entire decrease off the data and showing only the small uptick. It was done deliberately, and then he lied about it.
@windinhishair People like him are a textbook case of confirmation bias. I'm sure he also gloated over the "Trump economy" reversing the "Obama disaster" when by every metric, if you didn't know there was a change of administration in January 2017, you wouldn't have noticed anything different until 2020 after the COVID crash.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@LeopoldBloom You are correct. He did.
BlueVeins · 22-25
We have prevented the electoral coup for the time being, but the Democratic Party still has no plans on how to prevent the judicial coup. The Supreme Court -- which at this point has become a completely partisan puppet -- will rule in favor of the Independent State Legislature doctrine, and it will simply be impossible for Democrats to win on a national level once that happens. The Democratic Party has no apparent plan for preventing that from happening or adapting to its effects.
justanothername · 51-55, M
Has the Trumpster ever backed a good candidate?
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@justanothername
So Do you believe him when he says the 2020 election was stolen?
Moscow Mitch and Lady Graham have stolen every election they have been in.
justanothername · 51-55, M
@Diotrephes so you believe the Trumpster?
If you do it contradicts your previous statement.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@justanothername I have made numerous comments about what a lying SOB the orange traitor is. I'm running out of curses to describe him. But I do believe him when he expresses himself as a slimeball.
Fetterman won, i have 0 respect for anyone that calls themselves a Democrat. Im not going to say it was a stolen election, but that the average voter is really stupid.
@checkoutanytime When a president orders nearly $4 trillion in deficit spending in a single year, don't you think pushing all those dollars into the economy has some continuing effects? Such as inflation??
@ElwoodBlues of course. Again wasnt that covid relief, that was to benefit all, not a targeted group.
@checkoutanytime In theory it was covid relief. In practice it mostly flowed to business owners. And you'll notice that despite 22 million lost jobs, the stock market did surprisingly well throughout 2020. People with investments were well protected. Major market indexes recovered to pre-pandemic levels in 25 weeks. Jobs didn't. Workers didn't. The economy didn't. But Trump's moves really protected the investor class.

Northwest · M
In Washington State, the Democrats flipped one of the GOP House seats, where a MAGA was running against a democrat. The MAGA had defeated one of the 10 GOP House members who voted to impeach Mar-a-Lardo.
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justanothername · 51-55, M
@SubstantialKick I’m shocked.

HAHAHA
Crazywaterspring · 61-69, M
The Ds ran a slate of good to excellent candidates in this state. They chose the Christotaleban. Fuck Greg Abbott!
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
And yet, with all that you mentioned, Republicans still managed not to be wiped out electorally..😷
dancingtongue · 80-89, M
@LeopoldBloom He actually was Governor of Florida and lives in Florida. But he probably would enjoy the retribution for all the times Trump called him "Low Energy Jeb Bush" during the 2016 Presidential Primaries.
@dancingtongue I don't think he'll be the next senator from Florida either. He could be a compromise pick for Speaker like Nathaniel Banks in 1855, where the Republicans accept him as he's not a Democrat, and the Democrats tolerate him because he's not a MAGA. Banks was a "Know-Nothing" and acceptable to the Democrats and Oppositionists for that reason.
dancingtongue · 80-89, M
@LeopoldBloom Well, a Know-Nothing isn't what we need since they were the early populist version of MAGA. But someone who no longer has ambitions for higher office, nor an ideological bent, with the demonstrated political chops of a statesman who can work both sides of the aisle to get things done is. I believe Jeb's record in Florida is much more like his father's than his brother's, which is why he was rejected by the Trumpian wave in the 2016 primaries. While he embraces much of traditional conservative values which would make him acceptable to some Republicans, he is a "maverick" on others -- significantly, on immigration reform -- which draws the ire of MAGA and respect of Democrats. While he probably still has Presidential aspirations, it isn't a driving ego need: hence, his early drop from the 2016 primaries and the undeserved "low energy" sobriquet from Trump. I'm no fan of many of his positions, but at least he is not way-out extremist on them: he wants to limit abortion but recognizes the need for it in cases of rape, incest, health issues; his approach to improving education is based on vouchers but he also believes in common core standards rather than political whitewashing of curriculum and book banning; he doesn't totally agree with climate change but is in favor of ecological protections, and succeeded in the largest protections of the Everglades ever enacted. The challenges of tampering down the MAGA and Squad extremist agendas and actually getting something done -- particularly on immigration -- might be a challenge he would welcome , he might have enough support on both sides of the aisle to be acceptable, and, needless to say, any successes as second-in-line for the Presidency would help any lingering Presidential ambitions.
Convivial · 26-30, F
And just maybe an outbreak of common sense
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
"It looks like the Democrats did much better than expected. We can thank Sam Alito for the execrable Dobbs decision..."

Yes, we probably can.
And if the Supreme Court had been as corruptly partisan as, say, the FBI, they would have held off on Dobbs until after the election.
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@ElwoodBlues

"In the end, Mueller was not allowed to indict Trump according to his DoJ orders..."

Indictment by Mueller would never have been on the table; the only remedy (if Mueller had the goods) would have been a recommendation to Congress to impeach, as Mueller's predecessors, Cox and Starr did.

The difference is that Cox and Starr indeed had the goods, and Mueller didn't.
Mueller was such an embarrassment to the Democrats that they quickly buried him.

As for the "leading candidate," I would rather see DeSantis in that role.

But be careful what you enjoy. In 2016, the MSM enjoyed giving Trump a lot of free publicity to help him win the Republican primaries, thinking he would be the easiest Republican for Hillary to beat in the general election.
@Thinkerbell Actually, Mueller found 7 counts of obstruction of justice. Pelosi said she looked at the technicalities involved and made the political decision not to charge on those because all the complexities made it a tough sell.

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Funny thing: Cons conducted EIGHT (8) separate republican controlled Congressional investigations of Hillary Clinton from 2008-12. All EIGHT investigations EXONERATED Hillary, yet your average con pretends Hillary is guilty as hell. If you're letting Trump off the hook, why aren't you letting Hillary off the hook??

When Bolton described "obstruction of justice as a way of life" for Trump, he meant it literally. When Mattis called Trump a "threat to Constitution" he chose those words carefully.
@Thinkerbell The Supreme Court grants certoriari to cases that come before them, and that's when the Dobbs case came up. If there was a conspiracy to make sure the decision was before the midterms, it would have involved the lower courts as well. Thinking that was coordinated to make sure the Republicans did poorly in the midterms is ludicrous. And the court releases the prior term's decisions in June - are you saying they should have held off until now? They've already started the new term.

And I'll correct myself - conservatives are only upset when the FBI goes after conservatives, although I never heard "defund the FBI" after Stone or Giuliani. If the FBI arrests Hunter Biden, the same people will be calling them heroes.
Yes, Musk actually said this


Elon Musk says he voted Republican for the first time in Texas congressional race, predicts a 'massive red wave' in 2022 midterms
Jun 15, 2022
justanothername · 51-55, M
@ElwoodBlues That’s unfortunate… HAHAHA
Docdon23 · M
totally agree--seems majority does not really like Biden but even more have even stronger anti-trunp feelings
@Docdon23 Trumps negative publicity has sorely damaged the Republicans they would be better off backing DeSantis for the 2024 nomination
iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
That’s good news

 
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