They both belong in jail...

If you did something wrong and you get caught. You need to pay the penalties. No matter who you are or who you know.,

Secretary of State Col. Colin Powell (Jan. 20, 2001–Jan. 26, 2005) used a personal email account for government business. Secretary of State John Kerry, told the inspector general’s office that he “infrequently” used a personal email account for government business “when responding to a sender who emailed him on his personal account.” It's not uncommon, even if it's verboten.

Yes, they and many, many others treat electronic communication and record-keeping devices poorly (chalk it up to the generation). But between using the wrong server for email and committing espionage, federal obstruction and inciting & encouraging treason...I'd concentrate on the latter.

How did Hillary Clinton violate our laws? This fictional story about the 30,000 missing emails, was the subject of multiple Congressional inquiries, and multiple DOJ investigation.

They found absolutely nothing, and the DOJ cleared her multiple times. The last time, was November 6, 2016, two days prior to the elections. Comey waited until the last second, to make sure it does not look like he was doing her any favors. Every single inquiry turned up nothing.

They should both be held accountable, but let’s be honest, what Clinton did was a breach of protocol. Trump actually violated the law. So the two situations aren’t identical. I’d say Clinton has already been held accountable.

It seems that this post has run its course so, it feels rather obsessive for me to be here posting again. The thing is, however, I came across this on YouTube this morning and it covers pretty much all of my thoughts on the matter, so............

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I am just scratching my head here....wondering about your lack of knowledge.

You do know that if a President takes papers up to the residence to work at night, he can declassify them? You do know that Obama and Trump and even Bush had standard declassification orders in place, right? IF papers were in the residence, at the time the President(s) left the white house, they were not packed personally by any of the Presidents.

Declassification is among the many powers of the Presidency.

Hillary Clinton was never President.

Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, in the Blue corner we have “The Email Lady” who should be locked up because………………….what did she do again?

Either, she used a government server for personal emails and refused to hand them over.

Easy, peasy, lemon squeezy, it’s a government server. Surely those clever government peeps can get them for themselves. No?

Or, she used a private server for government emails and refused to hand them over. Apparently, her argument was/is that they are personal emails and don’t belong to the government.

TFG chanted “lock her up” for a year. He even asked the Russians, in public, to give him said emails. He then infested the White House for four years. He and his minions are still bleating on about said emails.

That’s seven years and still no emails? That unequivocally show that The Email Lady committed any kind of wrong doing?

What with the NSA, the CIA and all of the other super duper freaky deaky intelligence services that can apparently tell you the colour of the boxer shorts I put on this morning, is it feasible to assume that these emails have never been found? After seven years!

Maybe, just maybe, the reality is that they have been found and are indeed personal emails. Maybe, just maybe, all of this nonsense is a distraction for what TFG got caught, red handed, actually doing.

In the red corner we have TFG. He took approx. 30 boxes of classified documents from the White House to his golf club, Merde-A-Lavatory, and refused to return them and/or denied having them. He was pressured into giving them back but only returned half of them. He and his minions denied having the rest of them and obstructed all efforts to have them returned. Until, after almost two years of said documents being in his possession, the FBI served a legal search warrant on him at Merde-A-Lavatory and guess what. They found and seized the remaining documents.

Going off on a bit of a tangent (or is it?) TFG’s son-in-law, one Jared Kushner, failed to obtain the required security clearance but TFG installed him, as a senior advisor no less, in the White House regardless. Mr Kushner, who is reportedly as an astute a businessman as is TFG, somewhat miraculously managed to obtain funding to the tune of $2.5billion (yeah, that’s BILLION…..with a B) from those lovely people in Saudi Arabia.

Coincidence? I doubt it.

So, in summation, we have The Email Lady who, after seven years of probing and chanting and screaming, nobody has seen anything that is even remotely damning. And we have TFG, who is currently being investigated under The Espionage Act.

But hey, they are both in the same ballpark and should both be locked up.

Sorry Sara but……


At worst, The Email Lady is a somewhat arrogant career politician who believes that normal procedures and protocols do not apply to her. Whereas TFG has sold out the country for his personal gain.

P.S sorry about the swearing in my meme🤷‍♂️

I've never held security clearance, but every job I've held has had some sort of need to know or confidential information sort of policy-espeically if you end up in charge of other people. There are always consequences for such things if violated to one degree or another. Or sometimes people will be let off lightly.

I think it's important to take security and info that could harm or jeopardize the safety of others seriously and to probably follow procedures to do so-unless the procedures harm someone. I think not having consequences creates an environment in which people become lazy about it and eventually someone gets harmed.

I do think it's become clear that many politicians need regular help with security because they either are ignorant or make alot of mistakes, deliberately mess up or leak, or don't care to do it right.
Regular training and clear consequences would help. Many companies regularly do so.

In Clinton's case I believe no deliberate mishandling was proven after investigating.

Think that will be the case for Donald Trump? I doubt it.

I do not think the cases are equal.

I want to know the topics of the paperwork. I have heard not sure if it's true yet but the paperwork there classifying as classified and top secret that Trump had are on operation crossfire which was the evidence proving that Trump did not collude with Russia and they knew all along that it was paid for by Hillary and it was done strictly to make Trump look bad which if it is that that they're labeling is classified in top secret it was declassified in 2018. Trump also never tried to destroy any evidence and from my understanding he was told by the national archives and the FBI to simply put extra locks on that door to the room where it was kept which he did. Now I don't know what all Hillary Clinton had but I do know through her own admission she had the server cleaned using bleach bit there's also a memo she sent to her staff telling them to destroy cell phones and hard drives with computer with hammers. This also crosses into a different level because she's also destroying government documents. She also hid the fact that she even had the government documents. From my understanding Trump has never hid the fact of what he had and he is allowed them to look through everything.
If he does have something that was a vital national security interest why did they set on the search warrant for 3 weeks. Why has he been allowed to keep this information for 18 months.
If they are both guilty of all the same crimes they should be punished the same as any other person. If they are guilty of different crimes they should be punished for the crimes they've actually committed. But then we need to look back through history and you had the one guy that was still in documents out of the national archives by having them shove down his pants. You have a believe it's 80,000 documents that are sitting in a warehouse in Chicago that Obama took with him.

But then we also need to start holding to account any politician that is used inside information not available to the general public to purchase stock or make investments that they have profited from should be charged with insider trading and get exactly what Martha Stewart got.

Oh let’s not forget Obama and all his unreturned classified papers and swalwell, the sitting dem congressman on the intelligence committee that has a sexual relationship with a known Chinese spy . Clinton belongs under the jail .

How about prosecute those who have been found to have done something illegal, which Comey has already confirmed for Clinton. To say Trump did something illegal without evidence is your bias showing. Have you seen his documents? I doubt it.

Anyone who breaks the law should be prosecuted according to the law and punished in accordance with the law. Too many politicians do things and get censured or a slap on the wrist. It is well past time for equal treatment under the law.

Actually, the search warrant tells us that Trump's potential crimes have nothing to do with classification. The search warrant was looking for violations of the Espionage Act and the Presidential Records Act. Classification or declassification has nothing to do with those laws.

But if we're gonna pursue people who used personal email to conduct government business, then by all means go after both Hillary and Trump. And maybe add Ivanka & Jared to the list. And Steve Bannon too!



Oh, and let's not forget Steve Bannon!

Last I knew, at the time he took possession of the documents in question, Trump was the President, and therefore had the power to declassify documents at his discretion.

Hillary never had that power.

That said, if he broke the law, I'll support prosecuting him right after I see Hillary go to prison.

Clinton should be executed or in prison for the numerous assassinations and fraud and crimes against humanity

Not related to bad document handling

Cause my oldest son has very severe autism and is completely non verbal I vote democrat cause I feel democrats supports the Americans with disabilities act more than republicans. 🤗🤗🤗

I believe in forgiveness so I don't want them to go to jail. But I don't understand politics that well. I believe in welfare cause my son needs support and I think if heathcare is not free it needs to be affordable cause it's too expensive so I fully support the affordable care act as a compromise. I want stricter laws against child abuse and I am pro life unless a girl was raped or worse a child then I am pro choice. 🤗🤗🤗

I don't disagree. But all of your answers have the presumption of guilt. I don't know how things work at that level, but I assume there is due process. We are built on the assumption of innocent until proven guilty. So the way you worded the answers makes me feel uncomfortable. But yeah, neither deserve special treatment.

How do you feel about presidential pardons?

I have worked in a government department where I could be sent to prison for a data security breach, but our minister would be accountable only to her electorate for exactly the same breach. Many of our MPs are trained lawyers who are held to the highest ethical standards in their 'other' workplace, but don't think twice about accepting hospitality and gifts from professional lobbyists when in parliament. I can understand some of the reasoning, but the impression is not good and it definitely has a corrosive effect on tne rule of law.

It is my understanding that nothing in Clinton's e-mails was classified at the time the e-mails were exchanged, but that some things in them became classified at a later date. If that's wrong, please correct me, but if it's true, it doesn't make using a private server okay, but it certainly makes not realizing that the server now contained classified information buried in it's archives that needed to be dealt with an understandable error.

Politicians get away with murder….that’s not right. Sharing classified info risks national security….so many lives are at stake, not to mention the effort that went into keeping them secrets has now been wasted….so that’s even worse than murder.

The difference between Trump and Hillary is only one had the authority to declassify what ever he wanted.

As far as I know, Trump having classified documents is not known - only speculated.

If the Dimwits could find something to put Trump in jail for they WOULD !

It occurs to me that they are both egotistical and arrogant (if there's a difference) and may be more alike than different.

if a document is deemed to be deserving of a "need to know" status then once the need to know goes away so does the right to possess the document.

they knew the rules - and they had advisors that should have warned them.

jail? maybe not - but a felony conviction and a fine to prevent them from holding office is appropriate. Heck the attorney's fees will be more than the fine - so be it.

I had a security clearance and i took it seriously

Orange man bad

Death for Trump, put Hillary directly on the Supreme Court to replace the slut Barrett

If they have been proven to have broken the law then yes I agree with you.

How did Ivanka and Jared K qualify for security clearance, I wonder ?

What did Hillary do ?

I agree only poor people go to jail