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Trump Takes the Fifth. Over and Over.

Trump had his deposition earlier today about his business dealings. He invoked the 5th on all questions. Came out of the deposition holding his fist in the air. Like a political prisoner. Here's his statement about why he took the 5th.

“I once asked, ‘If you’re innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?’ Now I know the answer to that question,” the statement said.

There was a little more to it when he went after people taking the 5th in 2016.

“So there are five people taking the Fifth Amendment. Like you see on the mob, right? You see the mob takes the Fifth. If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”

Perfect.
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bijouxbroussard · F
He’s said a whole lot of things that have come back to bite him in the behind with a vengeance, hasn’t he ? Yet his supporters never seem to remember or somehow claim the media “misquoted" him.
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bijouxbroussard · F
@Carla Lol, right. 😆
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Ynotisay · M
@bijouxbroussard I just read that he signed a law in 2018 that changed the penalty of unauthorized removal of classified documents from one year to five years. Turned it in to a felony. He did that to serve the whole "Lock her up" bullshit around Clinton. And now it's come back around. Perfect.
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bijouxbroussard · F
@Ynotisay I love it !
Lock him up ! 😆
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ElwoodBlues · M
LOL!!! If Trump is innocent why is he taking the Fifth Amendment?

One additional interesting point: Trump's deposition is for a civil case. And in a civil case, in some cases the other party is allowed to treat taking the 5th as a sort of cover-up:

In civil litigation in federal court, a witness’s invocation of the Fifth Amendment may give rise to an adverse inference “when independent evidence exists of the fact to which the party refuses to answer.”

“Once a witness in a civil suit has invoked his or her Fifth Amendment privilege against self-incrimination, the trier of fact is entitled to draw an adverse inference from the witness's refusal to testify.” Chaffee v. Keller Rohrback LLP

Just found this:
Courts in New York have routinely permitted negative inferences following a party-defendant’s Fifth Amendment invocation.
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justanothername · 51-55, M
@Ynotisay The Republican Party should be renamed Hypocrites R Us for all the whining and blaming they do.
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Ynotisay · M
@justanothername But the rest of us are 'snowflakes,' right?
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justanothername · 51-55, M
@Ynotisay The rest of us aren’t being investigated by the FBI.
Trump pleads the “fifth” way too much to be innocent.
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Harriet03 · 41-45, F
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Hoping to see these two reunited very soon!
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LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@Harriet03 Nah. With as much as Ivana suffered on earth, he won't be reunited with her. They'll be going to very different places.
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Harriet03 · 41-45, F
@LordShadowfire
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tindrummer · M
impossible getting a straight or any real answer from trumpistas when one brings this up
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MistyCee
Apparently he did answer when asked for his name
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AbbySvenz · F
I’m shocked.

Shocked, I tell you. 😐
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softspokenman · M
@Ynotisay I don't think that it was a surprise that he took the 5th "on the advice of council" using the legal system and the law to protect himself. Calling it a 'Witch Hunt" is also typical of 'always the victim and everyone is being mean and unfair to me', sounds more like the lyrics to a sad 'country music song'. What I do find offensive is that in the past he has bragged about being a Muti Billionaire and has asked for donations, again, to his civil lawsuit.
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whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
Maybe if Trump had kept every single on Camera appearance to invoking the fifth amendment he would not be in half the trouble he is in today.. But the is still the fraud and Money laundering I suppose.😷
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Carla · 61-69, F
His answers could be used in a criminal proceeding.
His cult will bail him out of civil fines.
They can't do time for him.
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MistyCee
Should the 5th Amendment apply to civil proceedings?

It generally doesn't historically, but my guess is, you could craft an "originalist" argument that it should, if you pick and choose your historical evidence in search of the intent behind the 5th Amendment.
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Spotpot · 41-45, M
@MistyCee He has right to the 5th but he taking it speaks volumes.
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MistyCee
@Spotpot Sure, but let's face it, he's only at risk for money in civil proceedings, and he can still fundraise from folks who think he's wrongly accused to pay for it.

Pleading the Fifth makes sense, as long as his his supporters don't mind it, and my guess is they won't.
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BackyardShaman · 61-69, M
I guess it’s what his lawyers would advise him to do???? We all know he has plenty to try to hide.
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Freeranger · M
A political Pandora's Box has now been opened and.....a precedent set. Some people might not be so smug when they the Feds roll in to China Joe and son's yard. I mean, after all, turn about is fair play right kids?
Sew the wind, reap the whirlwind.
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Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@Freeranger You are the only one making this about "revenge", but don't let that bother you I guess.
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smiler2012 · 56-60
may trump is up to his neck and maybe any statement in a court of law may incriminate him for some other totally different crime he was involved in [tnotisay]
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Jimmy2016 · 61-69, M
🤔..........The 5th is for all citizens..........Be glad it's there for you!
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Ynotisay · M
@Jimmy2016 Then why did Trump previously say what he said about the 5th?
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Ozuye502 · 36-40, M
Constitution read it
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Ynotisay · M
@Ozuye502 What does that mean?
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MistyCee
@Ozuye502

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

How does this help with a civil proceeding?
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Helloeveryone · 61-69, F
to many public mistakes that was the problem
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pancakeslam · 41-45, M
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LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
Okay, Donald. Sure.
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SW-User
He is clearly saying that he is guilty, otherwise he would try to clear his name

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