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Border States Need To Override Biden And Secure Their Own Borders


The border crisis constitutes as an invasion, threatening the safety, security, and prosperity of the American people, and states have the right to respond.

The Biden administration’s commitment to dismantling southern border protections and Trump-era policies, most recently Title 42, has exacerbated the devastating border crisis. Last March, 172,331 illegal immigrants were encountered by Customs and Border Protection (CBP). This April, CBP encountered a staggering 221,303 illegal immigrants on the southern border, reaching an unprecedented 1.06 million encounters for the first half of the 2022 fiscal year. DHS released 80,000 of those migrants into the interior of the United States.
wildbill83 · 41-45, M Best Comment
when a political figure or party takes unilateral action against the entire country, it is not only the states right, but their obligation to ignore and nullify it.

we're a democratic republic; the power of the country/union resides in state rights, not a centralized federal government, many seem to have forgotten that fact...

unless we see some drastic changes and accountability in the coming mid-terms, I suspect we'll see more state nullification laws coming, especially on the issues of 2nd Amendment rights and border security
Budwick · 70-79, M
@wildbill83 WildBill - You are on fire!

TexChik · F
Texas is doing that
TexChik · F
@Tminus6453 like he said he’s not a globalist . He’s a Texan and an American first. He most likely had no idea who that guy was .
FreestyleArt · 31-35, M
@Tminus6453 I'm starting to have a bad feeling about him too. He's not really doing a good Job while the Florida Governor haves a fucking cool double edge sword that puts Joe Biden and the rest of these stupid fucks in their own place
Tminus6453 · M
@TexChik He knows, and his picture is on the WEF website... these politicians are all the same and are owned by the same world tyrants
Why not- it was done for Covid, wasn’t it? States effectively took it upon themselves to deal with that “ crisis” as their border(s) We have an illegal population “ crisis”, and let the states deal with it as they deem appropriate.
@Changeisgonnacome that Commission if you will, in the U.N. Is headed by, of all nations, North Korea. Their human rights commission is a slap in the face of humanity, too. And you might appreciate why many of us don’t fall on our knees to or before the U.N.
Budwick · 70-79, M
@Changeisgonnacome
No education will slow the killing.

What killing?
Changeisgonnacome · 61-69, F
@Budwick the USA has a very high gun induced death rate, a high car crash induced death rate is acceptable too. What killing? Maybe it's exactly the right rate. I think conservatives would say it is. But leftists don't like to see it, even if its your politics coming round to bite you.
I recognize that your major point seems to be State sovereignty and the right of the States to police international borders, but that right is being litigated and I think the courts are to place to decide the issue.

In fact, as a result of ligation by the States, the Biden Aministrat is still enforcing Title 42, a Trump policy which the CBP has acknowledged has had the unintended effect of increasing border crossings.




Since many people expelled into Mexico under Title 42 try to reenter the U.S., Title 42 has contributed to a higher-than-usual number of migrants making multiple border crossing attempts, which means that total encounters somewhat overstate the number of unique individuals arriving at the border.
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/national-media-release/cbp-releases-april-2022-monthly-operational-update?language_content_entity=en
TexChik · F
@MistyCee 74 % of Americans agree with the 2 A. When obama started harping about taking our guns, we started having mass shooters. Now like clockwork when biden started trying to move that agenda, here they come again.
Its too eerily convenient to be a coincidence.
@TexChik interesting. Also, note how gun sales skyrocket after both shootings and talk about "gun grabbing."
TexChik · F
@MistyCee Obama was the best gun salesman on the planet . In Canada , they have sold out of handguns . The entire country, due to the Son of Castro’s mission to disarm Canada. We all know how great it was in Cuba after his daddy did that there.
If the federal gov't won't step up, it forces the border states to take action, even though it's a national issue. But will a deeply blue state like California do anything, or New Mexico?
@soar2newhighs Agreed. But the post addresses the need for states to step up. I like what Gov. Abbott is doing in Texas. But we know someone like Newsom won't protect the border in California. The strategy can only work if the leadership of all 4 states bordering Mexico share the same objective.
@BizSuitStacyThought you meant the feckless administration in place now.
@soar2newhighs understood. We know the Dementia-in-Chief and his cackling side kick won't do a thing. By design.
In case anyone actually cares to look in the legal issues behind the idea of the states "overriding" Biden to protect their borders, as opposed to just rabble rousing and threatening timely secession talk, I figured I'd offer a couple of interesting results from quick google search.

The first is Ken Cucinelli (remember him, the former " the Senior Official Performing the Duties of the Deputy Secretary of Homeland Security" from 2019 to 2021), which, to be honest, reads a lot like the writings of John C. Calhoun:

https://americarenewing.com/issues/policy-brief-how-states-can-secure-the-border/

The second is what appears to be a fairly bland, but decidedly non-Trumpist (its from 2004) view of the law regarding the Federal power to regulate emigration, including a few choice squibs on attempts from States to interfere with this implied power.

http://hrlibrary.umn.edu/immigrationlaw/chapter2.html

I'm not getting paid for this research or analysis, so I'm going to be lazy and not go much deeper, especially in response to a post like this one, but I'll offer this thought.

The federal power over immigration seems to be not much more express in the constitution than the right of privacy or any other non-expressly granted rights, like the endangered "rights of women over their own bodies" set forth in Roe. It would require some real legal gymnastics to overrule all the "precedent" talked about in the second link, but from an originalist perspective, its not really that much harder than what happened with Heller to reject all the prior decisions as dicta or inconsistent with the text of the Constitution, since there's precious little on the subject actually in the text aside from "naturalization" which is obviously distinguishable from immigration.

While I don't think OP actually thought much about or cared about the legal basis for, or even the implications of a full scale State rebellion by force against the Biden Administration on the issue of immigration, and tend to think he's just rabble rousing in advance of an uncomfortable spectacle by the Democrats about 1/6, its worth noting that this "Originalist" Supreme Court could fairly easily point out that that the Tenth Amendment reserves all powers not expressly granted to the Federal Government to the States or the People, and thus de-legitimatize any federal action against States that interfere with existing Federal border or immigration policy.
4meAndyou · F
Another caravan is on the way. Mexico is not even TRYING to stop them. 9500 people.

Texas is already trying to handle it on their own.
Carla · 61-69, F
Encounters. Most of those people are turned away.
Get a grip bud.
There is no invasion.
Hey...didnt trump say he built his beautiful wall? Shouldnt that be keeping that imagined invasion at bay?
Budwick · 70-79, M
@Carla
Most of those people are turned away.

How many do YOU think actually get in the country - say on a monthly basis?
@Carla If you think this is NOT an invasion you are either extremely slow, or you are content being lied to.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
An invasion?.

Spot on, dude

It's like the White Walkers descending on Winterfell with their zombie ice dragon.
llamaboy · 36-40, M
Sadly we will never recover completely.
Virgo79 · 61-69, M
To pay them back hes supplying baby formula., doubt they'll change
Changeisgonnacome · 61-69, F
That is vigilantism.
Lawless violent defense against an enemy,-. They picked foreigners, illegally.
Changeisgonnacome · 61-69, F
@Changeisgonnacome the definition is what it is, and quibbling is certainly an excellent weapon against the truth! What can I even mean if I focus on other definition words than you? Impossible! We need be Armed Guards, and she's wrong! Okay! You win. Law isn't possible because you need a war at the border. Ok.
Changeisgonnacome · 61-69, F
@Budwick even your country can't just make any old thing illegal against the treaties they sign, unless they become an outlaw nation. This is old news. Conservatives did not take the bullseye off me when they chose to become callous nationalist outlaws on behalf of the US.
Budwick · 70-79, M
@Changeisgonnacome Our borders are not controlled by treaties.
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cycleman · 61-69, M
and they were props!
plain and simple
Tres13 · 51-55, M
send for Kyle
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Johnson212 · 61-69, M
@MarmeeMarch I don't want to pay for life in prison but you are right about taking away the reasons to come here. No hiring of non Americans without visas, if you are ever caught illegally in the us you are fingerprinted and forever denied the right to apply for citizenship.

 
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